Initial Analysis Of The Times Square Bombing Attempt

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  XJW4EVR

  What exactly do you think I beleive?

  Don't know, but you sure sound like a Muslim apologist to me, and I have dealt with 100s of them.

  How do you think I am deceiving myself, again?

  You are saying that just because some other people have engaged in terroist acts, that we should not look at the group that has, in recent history, has committed the perponderance of terrorism in the world. That is how you are decieving yourself.

  Most people think, but there are large amounts that don't know why they think what they do and are capable of the critical thinking required to arrive at a sound conclusion or do anything but throw a hissy fit.

  That's what you said. What you meant was that because I have an opinion that differes from your own, then I am an uneducated bumpkin. The feact is that I am not worried about terrorism from the groups you mentioned, because recent history has shown me that I don't have to worry about them. However, I do have to be concerned about a Muslim with explosives hidden in his underwear.

  For all you know, I might agree with you.

  So then why waste my time and yours with the nonsense you have written?

  Too bad you didn't stop to ask, but rather just ranted, stomped your feet and stuck your fingers in your ears rather than listen or think...

  And too bad you think that people that do not hold the same the same opinion as you have come to it through emotional reaction rather than reading and looking at history. Instead you ASSumed that I am just some idiot that is less than you. How liberal of you.
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  hemp lover

  How did this get turned into a left vs. right thing? If the bomb had exploded, wouldn't it have killed people of all political persuasions?

  You know, just because a media outlet reports that the guy's house was foreclosed on, doesn't mean liberals feel he's justified to try to blow people up. All media (other than Fox) does not equal the left's opinion (like we all feel the same about everything).

  Thank you to the vendor in Times Square, the cops on the scene first, the FBI and the Emirates airline employee who called in the suspicious ticket purchase.
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  5thGeneration

  Oops! Leftwing Blogosphere Forced Into Embarrassing Backtrack on Times Square Bomber ID

  By P.J. Gladnick (Bio | Archive)
  Tue, 05/04/2010 - 14:46 ET

  It appears that it wasn't only media types such as MSNBC's Contessa Brewer who were disappointed that the Times Square bombing suspect turned out to be a Muslim. They were joined by virtually the entire leftwing blogosphere in their frustration that the suspect wasn't a tea party activist or a member of a "rightwing" militia group. Before the identity of the bombing suspect was made known, Kossack "waterboard sean" conducted a poll on who the perpetrator could be. And here are the hilarious results of that poll (I am using Kossack terminology here):

  An al Qaeda terrorist ---4%

  An American sympathetic to al Qaeda ---5%

  A militia wackjob ---30%

  A teapartier ---32%

  A religious wackjob ---9%

  Gee! Let's see... Virtually all acts of terrorism during the past dozen years have been committed by Islamic terrorists yet only 9% of the clueless Kossacks suspect them. Instead, 71% ascribed the act to the group that Contessa Brewer was hoping would be guilty ...conservatives.

  Just as funny as the absurd results of this poll are the comments by waterboard sean and his fellow Kossacks. Here is waterboard sean acting like quite the "expert" on the identy of the bombing suspect:

  I am beginning to have a sneaking suspicion that the "Times Square bomber" story is going to get very ugly for the Fox News/Limbaugh types.

  So far what we know: He's a white guy. He stole someone's car (not a rental?) He didn't blow himself up. He used nonexplosive fertilizer (manure?) which suggests he has no training in bomb making.

  So, could this be an anti-government wacko? Or something else?

  Something else like an Al Qaeda member/sympathizer? Where could we get a crazy idea like this? The other Kossacks chime in with their views:

  You didn't list Dick Cheney in your poll

  Does it make it better if it is a non-American?

  Most likely a right wing McVeigh wannabe

  Perhaps Beck inspired, but Beck himself, not so sure.

  A paid shill by BP to keep the media attention diverted from the earth changing disaster unfolding and worsening day after day! Am I paranoid or what?

  So a day goes by and waterboard sean is forced to post a new thread, umm...it appears I was wrong, when the identity of the attempted Times Square bombing was made known. Watch as waterboard sean, with an egg-covered face, is forced to eat crow in a most humiliating manner:

  Yesterday I put up a poll to see what folks thought would be the outcome of the Times Square bomber case. While about 40 folks said my posting was stupid, 459 people voted.

  Given events, I think the outcome was interesting. Only 24 people (I can't do math, so I don't know the percentage, but it's low) said that this fellow was an American sympathetic to al Qaeda. On the other hand, more than half -- 288 -- said that the would-be bomber was a militia or tea partier guy.

  Now, Faisal Shahzad should be presumed innocent by all of us. However, the probability that this had nothing to do with any conservative movement is now extremely low.

  That leads me to one thing I should say: I argued my belief that this would be an anti-government type. I was wrong.

  Given the criticism, I felt like my posting was wrong to do. But now I'm glad I did it, because we have some information that gives us -- particularly me -- something to think about. . It is interesting to see how many of us -- me included -- went the direction we did in our predictions. And I don't know what that says, but perhaps it does mean we are classifying tea partiers too strongly. Perhaps not. But I think it's an interesting thing.

  Don't feel so bad, waterboard sean. Many in the MSM, such as Contessa Brewer feel just as you do...disappointment that the suspect turned out to have the background that was the obvious choice to most rational folks.

  Of course, the DUers at the Democratic Underground were also disappointed that the background of bombing suspect wasn't what they wanted it to be as you can see in these comments:

  All I hope is that they have ties to the teabaggers

  My Guess:
  Right Wing
  White Male
  American
  Flag Waving Patriot
  TEABAGGER
  McVeigh / Ruby Ridge / Waco fanatic
  2nd Ammendment Gun Nut
  Fundamentalist Evangelical Christian
  and most importantly:
  Anti-Immigration Zealot.

  Hmm... Does Contessa Brewer have a DU account? You can read more of DUer hope and disappointment at the DUmmie FUnnies.

  Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2010/05/04/oops-leftwing-blogosphere-forced-embarrassing-backtrack-times-square-b#ixzz0n065YqtP
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  BurnTheShips

  I love the poll!

  An al Qaeda terrorist ---4%

  An American sympathetic to al Qaeda ---5%

  A militia wackjob ---30%

  A teapartier ---32%

  A religious wackjob ---9%

  And that tells you all you need to know about the Left. The enemy isn't radical militant Islam.

  It's us.

  But back to Contessa Brewer:

  I mean the thing is that- and I get frustrated and there was part of me that was hoping this was not going to be anybody with ties to any kind of Islamic country because there are a lot of people who want to use this terrorist intent to justify writing off people who believe in a certain way or come from certain countries or whose skin color is a certain way. I mean they use it as justification for really outdated bigotry.

  Maybe some racist teabagger will step up and commit some violence so MSNBC idiots and Kostards won't get so frustrated. Because blaming whitey isn't outdated yet.

  Perhaps Beck inspired, but Beck himself, not so sure.

  Beck was on TV saying how Shazhad should get full Constitutional rights. You may hate him, but he is consistent.

  Meanwhile, fresh from betting that the bomber was opposed to health care reform, Bloomberg is warning people not take out their frustrations on Muslims.

  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/04/AR2010050402091.html

  Liberals spend their time far more outraged about these nonexistent backlashes than the actual terrorist attacks.

  Morons.

  BTS
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  hemp lover

  Glad to see they can admit it when they're wrong. It never occurred to me that it might be a tea partier, though I did wonder if it was a militia member, for one reason only. They used nonexplosive fertilizer. It just seems like the Islamic extremists have more experience at blowing things up. And it's just freakin' scary to think how close they've come to doing it again in America. The militia crazies don't really seem that frightening in comparison.
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  hemp lover

  "Liberals have spend their time far more outraged about these nonexistent backlashes than the actual terrorist attacks."

  No, they haven't. *sigh*
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  XJW4EVR

  How did this get turned into a left vs. right thing? If the bomb had exploded, wouldn't it have killed people of all political persuasions?

  Ask Michael Bloomberg. Honestly, I think that the media is so desperate for ANY example of right-wing violence perpetrated by Americans that they wil latch onto anything that fits their preconceptions.

  You know, just because a media outlet reports that the guy's house was foreclosed on, doesn't mean liberals feel he's justified to try to blow people up. All media (other than Fox) does not equal the left's opinion (like we all feel the same about everything).

  The problem is that this is the second time in which he have had Islamic terrorism, and the media has been slow to look in the direction of Islam (the first instance being the Ft. Hood murders by Nidal Hasan).

  Thank you to the vendor in Times Square, the cops on the scene first, the FBI and the Emirates airline employee who called in the suspicious ticket purchase.

  I join you in expressing your gratitude to the people involved in the apprehension of this turd.
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  BurnTheShips

  I guess radical Muslims really hate the health care reform bill more than the rest of us!

  Mayor Bloomberg: NYC Bomb Suspect Could Be Someone Who Didn’t Like Health Care Bill

  These people are hoping and praying that the one of Tea Party people will do something bad.

  BTS
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  hemp lover

  @ XJW4EVR: The initial information law enforcement officials gave to the media was that they were looking for a white man in his 40s, so why would people (any people, regardless of political affiliation) assume Muslim terrorism immediately when the police were saying otherwise?

  I also don't get the gripe with Bloomberg. Is it because, once the suspect was caught, he said he didn't want New Yorkers to lash out at their Muslim neighbors? I don't see anything wrong with him trying to quell any possible retaliatory violence against innocent people. By the way, Bloomberg is not a liberal.

  Not sure what you're talking about with regard to Ft. Hood. They caught the guy immediately and had made the Muslim extremist connection within 24 hours from what I recall.
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  BurnTheShips

  In other news, a white powdery substance was sent to the Arizona governor’s office today, requiring a lockdown of the building. There was a hazmat team on site. It’s unknown what the substance is or from whom it came. Unlike Brewer, I hope this turns out to be a false alarm of some sort. But if it weren’t liberals who are mad at the Arizona governor, you can bet this incident would make it into all the networks’ “Republic is crumbling” montages and lamentations about the loss of civility, false alarm or no.

  http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Its-already-time-for-a-Dumbest-theories-about-Times-Square-Bomber-post-92797549.html