by Essan 209 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Essan
Just read you reply, Yes Djeg has fallen for defending a subject you are peddling as a wrongdoing against witnesses and that is his mistake. I think I made my position clear and have no need to reply to you or Isaac.
Thank you both for your replies.
Good riddance
DJeggnog, I found one Watchtower reference to some of the changes made in 1915 in "The Time is at Hand" and another SS volume following the failure of Russell's predictions for 1914. There have been many, many more such alterations. Rewriting their history was a full time job for the Society. Thankfully, they could not destroy all original copies. This should help you get started in your research:
The 1915 March 1 issue of the Watch Tower admitted to these changes in the following article. Although, changing definite statements that Armageddon, the Christ and his Kingdom would have come in the fullest sense by the end of 1914 to say that they will come sometime after 1914 could not be any further from the "slight" and "trivial" change they lyingly claim:
Essan, I have a great respect for what you are attempting to do, and you have done a good job exposing how much a liar djeggnog is. It is simply not possible to have an honest debate with liars. JW's have been trained by the world heavyweight champions of liars, the watchtower society. They are very skilled and lying, logical fallacies, goal post changing, and semantics. They are not interested in the truth of a matter, they deny the most clear facts at the cost of looking like fools because they have one goal and one goal only. And that is to defend the watchtower society at all costs. So if they have to deny the sky is blue, they will write a 9 page essay on why the sky is not blue, and ask ridiculous questions like "well, what is blue?" "what is a color?"
this thread is a perfect "witness" to the levels that JW's will sink to. I never until today saw a JW deny that Russel predicted Christs coming in 1914. That is incredible. Only a very dishonest or very illiterate person could read those quotes and deny it. But its not surprising as the watchtower does the same, as their new dvd tells flat out lies such as the bible students of russel began to disern that christs presence began in 1914. This is an outright lie as they didnt believe that until the 20's under Rutherford.
but the sad part is that this type of lying is minor compared to the lying and covering up of child rape that these jw's engage in everytime they ignorantly defend the watchtowers child abuse policy which has been clearly documented to protect child rapists and silence the victims of child rape, as well as re-victimizing the victims. These JW's have no problem with attacking victims, calling them liars, and re-victimizing them all to protect the watchtower organization.
you have to wonder though about the pathetic type of life that the jw's have to come on here, which is direct disobedience to the faithful slave. so by watchtower doctrine these ones that come here will be destroyed at armegeddon because they are not being obedient to the slave, and are also viewing "spiritual pornography" by coming on this apostate website.
so really we have people who are so very alone and unhappy in life that in some sick way it makes them feel good to come on a site like this and lie their asses off to people who know better. then when its clear that they have been owned, they will come up with some lame excuse to not discuss the matter further.
it is a cycle that happens over and over and over. I used to get angry with them because of the lying, but now i just feel pity for them. these are very sad cases, people who have no life who do not fit in with JW's, nor apostates and they come to public forums and defend child molesters and the murder of children by refusing blood transfusions.
its a sad state of affairs.
Russell never predicted anything for 1914?
How about the complete destruction of "Christendom"?
And, with the end of A.D. 1914, what God calls Babylon, and what men call Christendom, will have passed away, as already shown from prophecy. --Thy Kingdom Come, 1891, p.153
And in harmony with this parallelism, October, 1914, will witness the full end of Babylon, "as a great millstone cast into the sea," utterly destroyed as a system. --WT 6/11/1911 R4842 : p.190
How about the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership? (Not to mention the END of the "battle of the great day of God Almighty"...)
the "battle of the great day of God Almighty" (Rev. 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced. –-The Time Is At Hand, 1902, p.101
the present governments must all be overturned about the close of A. D. 1914; and the Parallelism above shows that this period corresponds exactly with the year A. D 70, which witnessed the completion of the downfall of the Jewish polity. --vol II, 1911, p242
Are there any DJ-whisperers here who understand the issues under discussion and may have the patience and conciseness to explain the pertinent points in a way that will somehow reach him? I don't seem to have the 'knack'.
DJEggnog is a liar, plain and simple. It's not a matter of "reaching him". He knows the WT$ is full of shit but he doesn't care. He doesn't care about the truth. He cares only about maintaining the whitewashed outward appearance of his cult masters.
Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean. (Mt 23:27)
Reniaa, didn't you tell everyone you were going back to the jws and were therefore leaving this "apostate" board? Just another of your lies, I guess...
Ahhh snap!
-Sab
^ This thread rules, btw. I predict many lurker's eyes opening BECAUSE of djeggnogs rebuttal. I get a measure of satisfaction out of that.
-Sab
Yes, they do serve a useful purpose.
The FDS to these WT fanboys are bonified idols. They can do no wrong. Anything "bad" that they have done will be explained away. The GB is their Authority and their God.
-Sab
Does anyone know where I can get the JW dictionary?
There unique interpretations of commonly used words like "prediction" and "presence" would make for some good fantasy reading when I need a good laugh.
