This thread is an example of what happens when we start out with an unproven premise and then build on it in a way that fits in with our personal beliefs.
Sort of like science, right, dear Glad? Peace to you... and to you, too, dear Six... and, well, okay, you too, dear OTWO, so long as you know I'm not actually responding to you!
I mean, for example, a man of "science" believes man can fly (albeit, perhaps with the help some kind of apparatus); unfortunately, however, he lives about 3,000 (if not double/triple that) years before "science" can prove him right. So, his fellow Ogs considered him a dreamer, one who makes things up, perhaps even daft. Another man of science believes the earth is round - his contemporaries, however, "know better," of course, because it is flat... as a pancake... just look at it: it LOOKS flat... so it must BE flat...
What about the man who believes that man can actually travel to the moon? Say what? The MOON?? Oh, c'mon, seriously. That ain't NEVER gonna happe... oh, oops... that has happened. But travel back and tell HIS contemporaries such a thing and what will they think of YOU? One ace shy of a full deck, perhaps? They would say to you that not only can a man NOT get to the moon but, heck Og, it's made of green cheese! Why would'ja wanna go there for?
Based on what you folks "believe"... or don't... every one of these... and anyone who believes as they do... in the "impossible"... should just go sit down somewhere and hush. Until SCIENCE says it's so. Because NOTHING... is TRUE... or REAL... or POSSIBLE... until "science" says it is. That science may be, say, a couple/few millenia behind... if not a couple few tens of thousands of years... if not a myriad of [light] years... is totally irrelevant. It ain't true, I tell ya... until SCIENCE says it's true.
Sigh. I'm telling ya'll... ya'll REALLY need to let that WTBTS mind-limiting bunk way of thinking GO! And that IS what your "belief" (or lack thereof) totally smacks of: "we determine what's true by our experiments and if we don't say it's true... it ain't. Well, ummm, until someone comes along and proves that it is. But until that happens... it ain't!" Seriously...
It is you who are "limited" in your thinking... in your perception... and not we. Because of having been set FREE... from the limitations of the mind belonging to the FLESH... which limitations are dictated by the limitations of the FLESH itself... we know better. The spirit does not HAVE to be bound... by the flesh. It CAN transcend.
But because you have been misled by the LIES of those who say they know of such things... and, yet, don't have a single clue... you have now SHUT your minds. Yet, you say you want me to "open" up MY mind. Well, I say to you... re-open YOURS. LOOK! SEE! HEAR!... what you CANNOT with your limited (in all ways) vessel of dust.
Otherwise, you are doing YOURSELF and those who listen toYOU a great disfavor. Not we.
FREE YOUR MIND... well, okay, your heart, first... but the rest will follow!
I bid you peace, truly.
A slave of Christ, who is alive... TRULY...
SA