by rafreuter 53 Replies latest jw experiences
"interracial marriage was considered to be wrong by the laws of God"
Missed this, refering to do not become unevenly yoked? Israelite - Canaanine?
"Your sexual attributes are simply chemistry and setups within your DNA" - Or a result of fallen from perfection(sin)?
Who is Kyron? Some guy in all honesty.
Go with you, what do you think / feel? The many different opinions on this forum don't count.
You don't really need the approval of others.
RAFREUTER- Welcome to the board friend. Lots of good advice on pg. 1 which I mostly agree with. Nothing to add outside of we are here for you unconditionally to offer support. Please know that. Hang in there, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
Laverite- I read your story and... :( I saw so many parallels, and I hope if i Decide to stay and weather the storm, That i will at that point of contentment one day. Thank you for charing your experience!
Chalam, Thanks for the sentiments :] If there is a God, I don't think he would have made it THIS difficult to follow ONE principle that literally is intertwined with one's life.
Nelly, Thanks for the sympathy. And i totally understand that going back would DEFINITELY entail being involved with the religion again. My dad told me I'm "welcome into the house anytime as long as I'm willing to do things Jehovah's Way." I also understand going back is a defeat. But what can i do? If i can't handle it, then i can't handle it.
Cadellin, talk about stress lol.
1. I'm still in High School and unfortunately, our counselors are usually just for schedule changes and are not as much counselors as much as they are life-planners. I talk to one, but there's only so much she can do with limited knowledge of the religion.
2. i have read Crisis. Its a good book in regards to organizational flaws. However, my dad apparently has knowledge of the book, so I've been thinking maybe I'm giving too much credit to one book..
3. I HAVE!! :] and they definitely help.
4. I have told them that I still love them, that I love them as my parents and that wont change.
Notverylikely, unfortunately i don't have a year. Being my senior year in school, i don't have that much time to dillydally while i decide what im gonna do with my life.
Little Imp, I TOTALLY can empathize. Because my family was very highly regarded in our hall, and i being the son of an elder, when i stopped giving talks, stopped going in service regularly, grew my hair a little longer, so many people thought i was just the ugly duckling or something. i heard so much of people talking about me and i hated it.
PrimateDave, that would be the ideal situation. I wish my parents would bend at least a little bit in such a hard rule they have to follow (even better if they got out of the org altogether) but My dad made it clear i was only to call "every once in a while" just to let him know i was alive. that's it :/
Cook My socks, as you said you are most definitely entitled to your opinion. Might i ask you to google "what the bible does and doesn't say about homosexuality?" You'll find that most of what is in the bible regarding gays is not what God intended to be in there at all and that those mistranslations just helped further biases certain men had.
ProdigalSon, I found that very true and enlightening. I agree that intolerance in society will be gone in a few years (towards gays) and it's only till people figure out how to really interpret things will the majority's view change.
OUTLAAAAWWWW!!!! When lurking i always enjoyed your picture posts. and your silly dog. I gotta say its a pickup seeing it addressed to me xD funny joke.
Mouthy, Thank you for your words!!! I'll definitely look into that book. and no, iI'm not the type of person to just mess around for the heck of it. I don't think being gay is wrong, but I do think sleeping around whether one is heterosexual or not is wrong. I know people would judge me and I'm putting all of these things on a figurative scale. thanks again!!! :]
"What the bible does and doesn't say about homosexuality"
Is there any other way to translate 1 Cor 6.9 (like the amplified version myself) in any bible translation ? Depends I guess on your thought as to whether or not the bible is inspired or if you feel it's mans biast thoughts!
Look, nothing against you. My advice is valid. Screw everybody else, do what feels right to you and between you and the man upstairs. Not a lot else matters.
After all, homosexuality and christianity is a whole new thread that has no doubt been done many times
So? Some misogynistic homophobe wrote some letters. He was a product of his time and place.
Welcome aboard Rafreuter
Hi Rafreuter.
So? Some misogynistic homophobe wrote some letters. He was a product of his time and place.
Beks took the words right out of my mouth.
What firstly has to be acknowledged is why and where religions like the JWS disapprove of homosexuality.
Most ancient religious beliefs are structured on ancient cultures and their then social behavior morals of their era.
Reading the bible verifies the unjust and ignorance of the ancient Israelites, who the JWS unfortunately try and emulate
structurally. Todays modern understanding of social behavior reveals some new information about homosexuality
something that the ancients couldn't possible get a grasp of and I think you yourself has become aware of this.
I think its very brave of you to take this new direction for yourself and being still young in age with close
ties to your family, it must be especially hard for you. You deserve a pat on the back !
Keep your chin up and be steadfast, over time things will become much easier for you.
Coming to this forum is a good idea, you'll talk to allot of people who can relate to your own situation
and find some self supportive encouragement at the same time.
Hello Rafreuter. Welcome. Life is difficult for "straight" people, difficult with extra complications for "straight" people who wake to the truth about JW's, your road has even more complications. No matter how difficult situations may seem, life is still good. I wish you well. Make yours wonderful.
... you said your dad is aware of CoC, did he read it? If so, he for sure had doubts, possibly woke up, but took the path of least resistance. If he did read it, he has seeds planted that just might need some watering.
Hi Rafreuter. Welcome to the forum.
I left home at 17 without telling my parents I was going. Jumped on a train and put a thousand miles between us.
We were born innocent children.
We didn't ask our parents to teach us a load of crap posing as truth. That was their choice.
We didn't ask our parents to raise us in a church that treats its non-believing children badly. That was their choice.
We are not guilty of anything.
Now, they have to grow a pair and deal with the consequences of their choices. They have to decide how closely they are going to play by their church's rules and not blame us for their bad behaviour.
Cheers
Chris
Welcome Rafreuter! I'm glad you joined the forum. Thank you for sharing your story. Please hang in there - you will have lots of support here. Things will get easier one day at a time. You are young and have a wonderful life ahead of you.
Take good care of yourself. I wish you all the best!
Hadit
