What if God's existence was PROVEN TO BE TRUE?

by nicolaou 100 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    I actually lean toward ProdigalSon's view of things, though without the pseudoscience and dogmatic attitude. I think God IS omnipresent and that the universe itself has a sort of consciousness. It isn't a person (though it can probably be personified), it just IS.

    I'm still working it all out for myself but I'm finding that trying to live the Tao Te Ching has been quite helpful in feeling that the flow of my thoughts, feelings, and actions are becoming more aligned with the Way.

    But if one of the Gods of a current human religion showed up my first question would probably be: What do you want now?

  • nicolaou
    nicolaou

    Listener; no offence was taken, my skin is a lot thicker than that. As for Bohm's 'pasta' comment, well that was an obvious joke, I know this because I have gotten to know Bohm over the past few months - which was my point I guess.

    Your question was 'What if God's existence was PROVEN TO BE TRUE?' That's not a what if at all as God's existence is true.

    Leaving the issue of god's existence to one side, it is STILL a valid 'what if' question. I could validly ask; 'If I had been born a girl would I still love curry, beer & football'? The fact I am 100% convinced that I'm a dude doesn't prevent me from asking the question.

    So how about opening your mind up just a little bit Listener?

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog

    nic

    [2] Would it create a society where we no longer have free choices?

    Hmmm? What if it did?

    I think God's existence would raise more questions than answers.

    Would you try or want to kill Him?

  • ProdigalSon
    ProdigalSon

    C'mon guys, if I seem to be talking out of my ass, use your search engines. This stuff about cosmic dust is not new research, it goes back to the 60's and Astronomer Sir Fred Hoyle...its just now starting to make sense...

    Interstellar Dust Grains as Freeze-Dried Bacterial Cells: Hoyle and Wickramasinghe’s Fantastic Journey

    http://www.semp.us/publications/biot_reader.php?BiotID=455

    Also, here's a very interesting Coast-to-Coast radio interview that was just released the other day...

    http://divinecosmos.com/media/Wilcock_Henry_09_15_10.mp3

    Mad Sweeney, if I come off as dogmatic sometimes, I apologize, I still have a little Pharisee in me from the WT indoctrination and I need to work on it!

    ~PS

  • nicolaou
    nicolaou

    DD:

    Seeing as how you like answering questions with questions . . . .

    Nic; Would it create a society where we no longer have free choices?

    DD; Hmmm? What if it did?

    Nic; That really wouldn't bother you?

    Nic; I think God's existence would raise more questions than answers.

    DD; Would you try to kill Him?

    Nic; Already have done mate.

  • snowbird
    snowbird
    [1] How would that change reality as we know it?

    Revelation chapter 22 shows there will be no more need of day and night. If that is literal, imagine the implications!

    [2] Would it create a society where we no longer have free choices?

    Of course not! We will still have choices as to right or wrong. However, I believe most of our inclinations will be toward the good.

    [3] How about personal responsibility?

    We will make mistakes, but accept responsibility for them, always seeking to do better until the blessed day when we all fully mirror His image.

    Welcome, Listener.

    Good to have you here.

    Please tread cautiously, some here delight in Bible-bashing and faith-attacking.

    Syl

  • THE GLADIATOR
    THE GLADIATOR

    Tread Softly

    Scenes from my life

    By

    Annelies Becker

    As told to

    Paul Marsden

    HAD I the heavens' embroidered cloths,
    Enwrought with golden and silver light,
    The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
    Of night and light and the half-light,
    I would spread the cloths under your feet:
    But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
    I have spread my dreams under your feet,
    Tread softly because you tread on my dreams

    W.B. Yeats

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog

    Nic

    Nic; That really wouldn't bother you?

    It wouldn't doesn't bother me.

    Nic; Already have done mate.

    Yea, I see that.

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    I think that if God was proven to exist that the result would depend on HOW it was proven.

    But no matter how,many would be releaved, many would say " I told you so", many woudl turn their back on God anyway, many would release their anger at God, But ALL would be in for a rude awkening that's for sure.

  • sir82
    sir82

    This seems appropriate here:

    Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
    written by Douglas Adams

    The Book: The Babel fish is small, yellow, leechlike, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centers of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language. The speech patterns you actually hear decode the brainwave matrix which has been fed into your mind by your Babel fish.

    Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the NON-existence of God.

    The argument goes like this:

    `I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, `for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'

    `But,' says Man, `The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.'

    `Oh dear,' says God, `I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly disappears in a puff of logic.

    `Oh, that was easy,' says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.

    Most leading theologians claim that this argument is a load of dingo's kidneys, but that didn't stop Oolon Colluphid making a small fortune when he used it as the central theme of his best-selling book, "Well, That about Wraps It Up for God."

    Meanwhile, the poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.

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