Can anyone come up with a morally acceptable reason for waiting thousands of years to end wickedness?

by gubberningbody 112 Replies latest jw friends

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  designs

  Aguest- So why is Christ still playing this Faith game, a little like a cat with a ball of string isn't it, what does this person want......and by extension to any who go in for this scenario, what exactly do you do in terms of goodness that any decent human doesn't do.

  Finger- which Jesus

  To Believers- how is there anything unholy if God is everywhere.

  Scenario of a factual event- The Baptist Sunday School bus goes off the road and several sweet little children are horribly mangled. At the funeral we are told that God wanted these little ones in heaven with Jesus. Question, why didn't He take them in their sleep instead of having them arranged to be dismembered. We are told by Believers that the joy of heaven and God's presence will undo all of the bad memory and pain caused by the God who arranged the mass killing.

  Help me have Faith in this God.
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  tec

  Scenario of a factual event-

  I don't believe those children died because God wanted these little ones in heaven - nor do I think even remotely that He arranged for their dismembering. We made the world we live in and accidents happen in it. What I do believe is that God can protect the spirits of those children, before and after they have died.

  How is there anything unholy if God is everywhere

  Who says He is everywhere? Being able to 'see' into a room, and actually 'stepping foot' into it are two different things. Why do you think 'hell' (in whatever meaning and timeline a person can give it) is considered absence of God?

  Tammy
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  designs

  Tammy- please read the Articles of Faith on the Trinity: God's Omniscience, Omnipresence, Omnipotence. Then you will understand the Fundamentalist's mindset.
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  tec

  Designs - you asked believers, love, and did not specify fundamentalists :)

  Tammy
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  designs

  True, thanks. There certainly is a broad and multi-layered view of Jesus and his Judgement among the 'christians', which always begs the question: Which Jesus, yours is entirely different than the Fundamentalists.
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  skeeter1

  “No one saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may. We ourselves must walk the path.”

  Buddha
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  life is to short

  I have only read the first page but easyreader1970 said

  My main problem is this. The "challenge" made by Satan was that people would not serve Jehovah if their life was hard. Jehovah said "Bet!" So, what the Watchtower is saying is that because currently much less than one percent of the population of Earth is serving Jehovah, that somehow this makes God a winner? What kind of math is that? It appears that not only has Satan won, but it was a beat down of Biblical proportions. Can we just declare him winner and move on?

  I remember as a kid my life was peer hell. I thought I only get a 1000 years of some kind of peace then my life goes back to hell. The thousand year thing used to scare me to know end it made the thoughts of suicide sound better and better when I was a kid. I just could not understand why God would do it all over yet again and make us all suffer like I was then. For what his name?

  LITS
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  Paulapollos

  How can there be a "morally acceptable" reason? I've used this before, and forgive the crudity of the example...

  If I was an armed police officer, and I was walking past a woman being brutally gang-raped in the street, and I simply stopped and watched, and called out "I'm not stopping this because it will be good for you in the long run", what would you think of me?

  Could I ever provide a "moral justifaction"? Could I ever say "Well, the reason I didn't step in, is that there is a chap down the road who bet me that if I didn't help this lady, she wouldn't be my friend afterwards." Is that really a moral justification?

  I have to say that all the evidence points to a God who really does not give a flying monkey's about whether we think he is moral or not.No wonder people hate him - not that he seems to care about that either. It seems to me that the God of the Bible is exceedingly post-modern in his philosophy.

  PP
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  cult classic

  LITS I know what you mean. The perpetual cycle of sin, testing, redemption is an exhausting belief.
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  MrFreeze

  The answer, as George Lucas pointed out, is midichlorians.

  Honestly, it doesn't make sense. I've brought it up before. How would a loving God allow the suffering to go on. According to JW explanation he's not responsible because he didn't cause Adam and Eve to sin. He has the cure for what ails us and fails to give it to us. He's no better than a third world dictator.