Did Jesus resurrect Himself?

by brotherdan 143 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • mkr32208
    mkr32208

    Straight up awesomesauce...

    Here's the choices dan the sheep dip...

    A) Jesus and god and the holy hoolah are one. Therefore jesus as a part of god sacrificed nothing and the resurrection meant nothing. It's the moral equivalent of me clipping my pinky toe nail as a sacrifice and then in 3 days having the nail grow back. Nothing lost nothing gained.

    B) Jesus God and the holy hoopla are separate, Jesus took in on the chin then was brought back to life as a man after three days then turned into a spirit to enter heaven. Still nothing lost nothing gained when Jesus came back to life he negated his sacrifice. The shitty part about dying isn't DYING it's being DEAD! If you could be disintegrated atom by atom in the most excruciating manner possible and it would take about 24hours then your body would be brought back and it would be YOU and you would live forever young healthy and one of the three most powerful doodads in the universe would you do it? Of course you would! Could you then spend the next few eon's bragging about how much of a sacrifice you made? No it's stupid. Jesus sacrificed nothing.

    C) Jebus god and the holy hand grenade are separate Jesus died for the sins of man (god) and then was resurrected as a spirit... Same fucking thing as answer 2 he still didn't stay dead so the sacrifice was null and void.

    In none of the ways that the biblical account can be interpreted can there be any sacrifice even IMPLIED. Jesus didn't die for your sins he had a shitty weekend for your sins. Any soldier in history who has died for his comrades any person who has died to save his friends any firefighter who has run into a burning building to die trying to save another ANY of them sacrificed more than your made up Deity because they STAYED DEAD.

    The ONLY way that this stupid sick story (Human sacrifice? REALLY?) plays at all is option D) Jesus came to earth became a man stayed true died and STAYED DEAD. If he came back AT ALL in ANY WAY his sacrifice wasn't really a sacrifice at all.

  • mkr32208
    mkr32208

    Really? There is a member here calling themselves 'podobear?' Or the moral equivalent of "pedobear?"

    Must be an ex elder...

  • Think About It
    Think About It
    Really? There is a member here calling themselves 'podobear?' Or the moral equivalent of "pedobear?"
    Must be an ex elder...

    That was very uncalled for.

    Think About It

  • mkr32208
    mkr32208

    Think about what? That someone is calling themselves PEDObear and your not offended by THAT? You DO know that pedobear is a anime bear that rapes children right? And you DO know that there has been a bit of a scandal in the witness organization over that exact issue RIGHT so here's a big old middle finger to YOU and a DOUBLE middle finger to the sick fuck calling himself podobear.

    It's not my forum but if it was that asshole would be banned and blocked right now...

  • Podobear
    Podobear

    I think this discussion is done for me... thanks for your contribution mkr..

    I have just learnt that my mum is being sent home to die... her cancer has taken over her whole body. Since my folks need my attention at this time, Dad a JW Elder and mum who has bitterly opposed him for 50 years, I cannot tolerate abuse on top of misery.

    For your information: My nom de plume stands for: PODO Podiatrist (my profession) and BEAR because folks say I am cuddly.

    I guess it is to be expected that ignorant people exist all over the earth, here in the UK a consultant Paediatrician (female) was mobbed in Portsmouth, England for exactly the same sick mindedness.

    Thanks for your encouragement ThinkAboutIt

    I call on the moderators to intervene please.

    Podo

  • Think About It
    Think About It

    Podo you have a PM.

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    You know guys...there is a fine line in discussing any topic but that line becomes even finer in regards to religion and politics it seems.

    The moment we make it personal is the moment we show that our argument has no leg to stand on, or at least that is how it is preceived.

    It was uncalled for to treat Podobear in this fashion and I think an aoplogy is in order.

    We came here and share our views and opinions and that is ALL they are, OUR views and opinions, no more and no less.

    We all deserved to have them respected, we may not agree with each other but a little respect never hurt anyone.

    I apologise for what was said to you Podo and ask that you look inward and find it in yourself to forgive things that are said without the benefit of, well...decorum.

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    mrk33208

    Your comments were most definitely uncalled for. YOU assigned a meaning to the name that was insulting and rude, Check Posting Guideline #1

    You owe podobear an apology. If you can't do that then I suggest you leave this discussion and find another.

  • tec
    tec

    Podo, I'm sorry about your mom. Take care of yourself so you can take care of her.

    PSac, I don't say it very often, but you are a kind, strong and faithful man. Your words so often reflect the love of Christ within you.

    Tammy

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    I'm so dismayed by Podo's news and the ugly turn this discussion has taken.

    Podo, PSac, and Stephen, my brothers in Christ, I love all of you.

    Also, Ding and Tammy.

    Syl

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