It Bears Repeating...

by AGuest 75 Replies latest jw friends

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    "You have to let it ALL go, Neo: fear... doubt... and disbelief. Free... YOUR mind." - Morpheus

    Peace... and good night (morning)!

    A slave of Christ,

    SA

  • Murray Smith
    Murray Smith

    A "slave of Christ" . . . without fear . . . doubt . . . or disbelief . . . a free thinker . . . now that sounds like Christianity the way it should be!

  • tec
    tec

    Peace back to you :)

    It is a fantastic line, and so true.

    Tammy

  • bohm
    bohm

    rational thought begin with doubt. you cant let doubt *go*, you can only try to learn more about the world and slowly change your beliefs ever so slightly. equating doubt and fear is the cornerstone of totaliarism and irrationality.

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    "who moved my cheese?"

  • tec
    tec

    Bohm, I think it's more about not limiting yourself by your doubts, and thereby closing yourself off to other possibilities that are out there.

    Also, I think this has different meaning for people according to different stages of their belief. So if you do believe, then let go of the doubts and the fear that are keeping you from FULLY putting your faith in something. Or Someone.

    Tammy

  • bohm
    bohm

    tec, but by letting go of doubt you are per definition discrediting other possibilities.

    Do you want a judge to "let go of his doubt" in a court case? Do you let a doctor to "let go of his doubt" when he is making a medical examination? Do you want a scientist to "let go of his doubt" when trying to figure out a theory? Do you want me to "let go of my doubt" when considering if God exist or not?

    in reality, when you "let go of your doubt" about proposition A you INCREASE your doubt about propsition "not A"; doubt is really being shifted around in a non-rational way. And what fear is mentioned in the quote, the fear about being wrong? oh the horror...

    My girlfriend asked me yesterday how sure i was if God existed or not. I said i think i am around 90%+ confident he does not, but its a day-to-day thing. im pretty proud i can recognize im not 100%.

  • nicolaou
    nicolaou
    I think it's more about not limiting yourself by your doubts, and thereby closing yourself off to other possibilities that are out there

    I agree. Seems to me though that faith allows an individual to entertain as possible ideas that are provably impossible. Accepting as possible the notion that a man could walk on water or that 1+1=3 (loaves & fishes?) only serves to distract from the truly amazing possiblities that might actually be real!

    Possible ecosystems and the search for life on Europa

    It's all very well quoting a Hollywood movie AGuest but real life isn't like that. Some disbelief should be held onto very firmly indeed.

  • trevor
    trevor

    Freeing the mind from bondage and exploring a spiritual approach to life seems a sensible and beneficial approach to so much that is as yet unknown.

    Becoming a slave belonging to anyone, including Christ, seems to me about as close to freedom as being chained to a wall.

    Peace to you - and freedom.

  • tec
    tec
    Do you want a judge to "let go of his doubt" in a court case? Do you let a doctor to "let go of his doubt" when he is making a medical examination? Do you want a scientist to "let go of his doubt" when trying to figure out a theory? Do you want me to "let go of my doubt" when considering if God exist or not?

    I hear what you're saying, and I agree that doubt and/or skepticism are needed in life, to keep from being misled or swindled by man. However, in matters of faith in Christ and God (not men) - doubt is contradictory and limiting, because faith is being sure of something not yet beheld. So if you were going to examine faith and/or attempt to embrace or test it out, then you need to free yourself from doubt and fear, at least long enough to ask for help in doing so.

    Becoming a slave belonging to anyone, including Christ, seems to me about as close to freedom as being chained to a wall.

    We are all slaves to something (jobs/money/families/fears/addictions/'the grind' (little Skid Row in there )/appearances/social norms such as buying houses and cars and computers as the utmost goals in life... and also the good things like charities/serving others out of love/children/humanitarian efforts/etc.) In light of this, being a willing slave of Christ by comparison can free a person from the many other things that can and do enslave us.

    So perhaps most of us are not slaves according to the legal definition, but all of us ARE slaves to the things that rule us. Just a matter of what do we wish to be slaves TO.

    Tammy

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