we can find words of wisdom in all sorts of fiction works - no matter the genre.
Okaaaayyyy, dear tec (the greatest of love and peace to you!)?? Here I am, all head-up over the fact that I had the FREEDOM to even watch the dang movie when it premiered some years ago - LOLOLOLOLOL! This time, I "On Demanded" the "Makings of the Matrix" movie the other night, you know, just as a walk back down memory lane ('cause I loved Keanu Reeves at that stage of his life... and Lawrence Fishburne since Apocalypse now... and was single and planning to marry them - yes, both of them, at the same time, sorry, but I have to tell the truth! ...) and nothing else (that I wanted to watch) was on, sooo... And here comes "Morpheus" with this great line! "Hey!" I says to myself, "Maybe THAT will explain it to the folks who keep asking me - elsewhere - what I 'mean'! It's simple enough, to the point, and has the same message!" (I had already mentioned it in another post, so... I simply repeated it in its own post. Oops... LOLOLOLLOLOL!)
Now, I realized, of course, that perhaps some Matrix haters (or Keanu/Fishburne/Shelby 'haters') were gonna pro'lly have a problem with it, but I didn't really care - such ones tend to always have a problem with something or another, including what I post (I mean, not just disagreeing, but an actual problem). And it wasn't really for them anyway, sooo, well, I liked the line, thought it was appropo and would be "enlightening" for some... (and it was)... and so I posted it. No "message from God" or direction from "Jeezus". Didn't even say what it pertained to. Just a 15-word quote... and Lawd havemercy! LOLOLOLOLOL! (Ain't people... interesting?)
Ennywho... oh, wait, I'd better get to dear Cofty (again, peace to you!) before dear Jay88 starts to melt (and peace to you, again, too!)!!
Ok then little miss sarcasm
First, let me say that I was NOT being sarcastic, dear one. I really wasn't. When I get sarcastic, it looks something like my comments to dear tec, above. No, the truth is that I took your comment as being so and called you on your "reasoning" for "leaving [me]" to what you believe I misunderstand. I mean, you simply could have said, "Well, I disagree, Shelby, so I'll leave to believe what you do" or "You still have a wt inspired, unbiblical understanding of the death of Jesus but/so I will leave you to it." You didn't though... because you wanted to be sarcastic. So, perhaps you should consider turning that index finger around. In the meantime, we're A-OK as far as I'm concerned and absolutely NO worries from MY end...
why is your explanation soteriology identical to that of the watchtower
I disagree that it does, dear one. But so that I don't bore dear Jay88 (peace to you, as well!) any more than I absolutely have to, why don't you tell me what the WTBTS soteriologically believes (heck, do THEY even know??)... and I will respond with what I have come to know.
and completely disregards the central theme of the work of christ which is vicarious punishment, blood sacrifice and propitiation?
I have to admit that I don't understand this statement, particularly as it relates to "vicarious punishment." Can you expound on that a little more, please? And try to think of me as a "small child" when you do - I am a bit menopausal these days and so may not "get" it if you use really "big" words (like "soteriology"). Thank you... and, again, peace to you!
(How's that, dear Jay 88? Did you make it through? If not, no worries. I realize that paragraphs (and pages without pictures) do cause some to descend into a narcoleptic state. Caution: I'm thinking the one in response to dear Cofty's next post might turn out to be the "long" one, so if you can hang, please feel free to do so. If not... well, night-night, dear one. And, again, peace to you, too!)
A slave of Christ,
SA, who was being sarcastic, this time... so please forgive (if you can/will) if I offend. Don't mean to (not maliciously, at least), but sometimes it can't be helped, can it?