Does the Issue of Universal Sovereignty make sense to you as an explanation for evil? (page 18)

SixofNine

cruel, gubberningbody. You may as well have driven a stake through her heart.

tec

I still think it's rather Anton-Babinski-esque that so many here can't answer how it is that the US-TOE (Universal-Sovereignty-Theory-Of-Evil) is an adequate argument for Jehovah allowing child rape to happen.

You're not making sense. It sounds like you're asking someone to defend it, when most everyone here knows it is NOT an adequate argument. Because it is a lie. A WTS teaching. Not Truth. Not even biblical.

Peace,

Tammy

EntirelyPossible

Seriously, I took it as an off-the-cuff attempt at facetious humor, even thought it a bit humorous, actually... and simply responded candidly... as I often do.

Fair enough. It's very possible I may have taken that personally when that was not the intent. It's all cool. No worries.

gubberningbody

Tec , US-TOE aside - is there ANY adequate explanation?

There are people here who still retain the idea that this being, this intelligence behind the universe has a morality anywhere close to finding any acceptability with humans.

Failing that test, should find a rejection of this being/intelligence but it doesn't for some bizarre Anton-Bibinski-esque reason.

Do you see how your tangential expressions on the matter fall into this same category?

tec

I gave my understanding on page 7, and that had nothing to do with US.

To put that understanding into some practical terms... do you or have you ever loved a child, spouse, brother, sister, cousin, friend... who started 'going bad', and hurting others and also themselves? Perhaps due to drugs, or abuse, or anger, or whatever reason? Have you just given up on them... or do you fight to bring that person back around, because you think they ARE capable of coming back around. Of being kind and loving and good again.

If you have hope for those people that you love, do you deny God the same hope for those he loves?

Peace,

Tammy

N.drew

I think your points are very well made Tammy, and in language that is easily understood!

I have a theory. Maybe The God is giving time to us all so that we can see that we need each other and in fact we are each other. Man is in god's image? Well, God is everything (not every thing), without The Tetragramon (let's be fair here) there would be nothing. So let us imagine that being in The Gods' image (let us make man in our image, Genesis 1:26), means we are everything (but not heaven) Psalms 115:16 The Earth He gave to mankind. So just maybe we all together are sovereign. And they blame GOD, but it is our fault. The tribulation (all the evil) is our fault. Peace! Because we do not make a good sovereign, how hard can it be?

THE GLADIATOR

N.drew Why stop at mankind? Many accept that the earth and every living thing that it supports is just one complete organism which is also part of the universe. God is the name we give to all that 'is' in its entirety.

Because as humans we feel separated from each other, we have created the concept of a separate god in our own image. Perhaps we are not as separated from each other as we think and our divisions are artificial. There will never be true unity until the whole world realizes the truth is that we are all one. We are responsible for our destiny and our failings. The blessing and the malediction are results of our collective actions.

N.drew

Yes! All the other living organism are included in the "oneness" but man is powerful over them to change them by choice. The plants and the animals don't have choice. See how the secret was a secret? And I have blown it, if you want to give me the name of the other terrorists feel free, but it won't make me feel better. I don't think so. I'm not talking to you (in second to last sentence) because you Gladiator are a gentleman. Thank you for agreeing with me. Now I have two who I can say said ditto. It's been a long year.

AGuest

Can you answer a simple question with a single word?

Yes.*

Peace, dear Gubber!

A slave of Christ,

SA

*Assuming it's a question simple enough to BE answered with a single word...

Does the Issue of Universal Sovereignty make sense to you as an explanation for evil?

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