Hi Mac, how nice to see you here again!
Blondie
Will the Governing Body Ever Make a Big Enough Mistake?
by What Now? 51 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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ABibleStudent
Hi (((((((What Now?))))))), Ditto what leavingwt and cedars said. You and your husband should start living your lives for yourselves and your children. If your JW parents and friends want to continue to waste their lives slaving for the WTBTS, then that is their choice. If you want to help them, you can always send them emails/notes of you and your family having a fantastic time living and enjoying life.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
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Twisty
Its possible that a lot of small mistakes will have a greater effect than one big one, a constant stream of nagging doubts each one triggering a different person for a different reason.
I'm not sure but the Rate of increase has been decreasing?
Hopefully soon we see a rate of decrease across the board and not just in some countries, and with that "the organization" will die a slow death with more members leaving each year until it starts a mass movement.
Hoping
Twisty
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metatron
Want out? Claim illness. Find something chronic that nobody can pin down or cure. Skip meetings and fake your time to stay out of elder's gunsights. Grit your teeth occasionally when they say something stupid like "you'll be healed soon, in the New Order".
In any case, don't waste any more of your precious life span in this sick cult. Most Witlesses are into it hook, line and sinker - utterly deceived and beyond all reason. As I have said many times, you could have the Governing Body sodomizing boys on a parade float being towed down Broadway on a Saturday afternoon and the average Witless will simply say, 'Well, it's still the 'truth'.
The only thing that could bring them down suddenly would be an open, prolonged fight at the top, like elders openly fighting in a sinking congregation. They have been declining financially for a long time (despite real estate assets) but Witlesses see every cutback as a sign of some wonderful expansion. The longer this scam goes on, the sadder it becomes for those who have trashed their lives in it. Like the war in Vietnam, they will keep on wasting their own lives and those of others, refusing to admit it was all a fantasy.
metatron
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undercover
...it was either get busy living or get busy dying. I was dying a slow death for each day I was still a JW. I made a clean break, dealth with the extremely painful aftermath and then moved past it.
Similar as to how my good friend Andy Dufresne escaped; he crawled through a river of shit and came out clean on the other side.
Back on topic: There have been some "big" mistakes. Maybe nothing earth shattering that caused major scandal, but enough that should make a normal, rational, critical thinking person sit up and realize that something is wrong. Failed Armageddon dates, child abuse scandals, changes in major doctrine. Nothing seems to shake the core group. As long as the GB says something as if it came from Jehovah, a percentage of people are going to believe it.
The WTS/JWs will continue to exist in one form or another for as long as religion has a hold on people. It will change. It will evolve. The WTS of a hundred years from now will be nothing like the WTS of today...just like today's WTS is nothing like the WTS of 50 years ago, or 100 years ago.
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Vidqun
There is another possibility for those that believe in the God of the Bible. If He is righteous, just and perfect, He will not tolerate the above. Throughout the Bible, He warns that He cares about widows and orphans. So if you abuse (or stumble or harm) even the smallest of these, you wil have to deal with Him.
Remember also what happened to Israelites when they went off the rails. First time, the Babylonian exile, with only a remnant surviving. Ezekiel explained the reasons for their punishment. Second time, after killing His Son, the Romans would destroy Jerusalem, and with it the existing Jewish system. During the Second World War, the Jews were left to their own devices. God did not come to their rescue because He had rejected them as His representatives. So, to be God's chosen nation is certainly a hard act to follow. Strictly speaking, none of us would qualify because of our imperfection.
That's why JWs as an organization is going to be destroyed, even before Babylon the Great. There are many prophecies pointing to this. That would level the playing field somewhat. At the end, your relationship with God will matter, not the group to which you previously belonged. That would be fair and what one would expect from a fair God. The great crowd coming out of the great tribulation, which cannot be counted (definitely not seven odd million), will be from all nations and tribes and tongues. So no, I don't think their demise will come from mistakes (or one big mistake). God will allow them to be disbanded by using the political rulers of the earth as His instrument.
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straightshooter
I thought the overlapping generations explanation was a super big mistake. But that did not faze any of the cong in my area. They still blinding give full obedience to the GB.
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JW GoneBad
One can only wish, hope and.........................pray!
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3rdgen
"Big enough" to one person is not big enough for others. Some times the "mistake" has to hit directly on the head. It wasn't until my elderly widowed mother was treated discracefully by the WT$ that I started to wake up.
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insearchoftruth
just in the short time I have been reading about the WTS there has been the generation change, the changing of the date of the sealing of the anointed, meeting changes (elimination of the book study), changing the pioneer hour requirements amongst many things. They have survived child abuse scandals, including newspaper articles and tv news casts, and no issue by the people who follow them.
It seems to me no matter what happens, the followers blindly follow...