Evil Spirits

by LizLA 294 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Qcmbr
    Qcmbr

    Just ripped from a site while googling - no comment other than it's interesting:

    The commonly held human senses are as follows:

    • Sight: This technically is two senses given the two distinct types of receptors present, one for color (cones) and one for brightness (rods).
    • Taste: This is sometimes argued to be five senses by itself due to the differing types of taste receptors (sweet, salty, sour, bitter, and umami), but generally is just referred to as one sense. For those who don’t know, umami receptors detect the amino acid glutamate, which is a taste generally found in meat and some artificial flavoring. The taste sense, unlike sight, is a sense based off of a chemical reaction
    • Touch: This has been found to be distinct from pressure, temperature, pain, and even itch sensors.
    • Pressure: Obvious sense is obvious. ;-)
    • Itch: Surprisingly, this is a distinct sensor system from other touch-related senses.
    • Thermoception: Ability to sense heat and cold. This also is thought of as more than one sense. This is not just because of the two hot/cold receptors, but also because there is a completely different type of thermoceptor, in terms of the mechanism for detection, in the brain. These thermoceptors in the brain are used for monitoring internal body temperature.
    • Sound: Detecting vibrations along some medium, such as air or water that is in contact with your ear drums.
    • Smell: Yet another of the sensors that work off of a chemical reaction. This sense combines with taste to produce flavors.
    • Proprioception: This sense gives you the ability to tell where your body parts are, relative to other body parts. This sense is one of the things police officers test when they pull over someone who they think is driving drunk. The “close your eyes and touch your nose” test is testing this sense. This sense is used all the time in little ways, such as when you scratch an itch on your foot, but never once look at your foot to see where your hand is relative to your foot.
    • Tension Sensors: These are found in such places as your muscles and allow the brain the ability to monitor muscle tension.
    • Nociception: In a word, pain. This was once thought to simply be the result of overloading other senses, such as “touch”, but this has been found not to be the case and instead, it is its own unique sensory system. There are three distinct types of pain receptors: cutaneous (skin), somatic (bones and joints), and visceral (body organs).
    • Equilibrioception: The sense that allows you to keep your balance and sense body movement in terms of acceleration and directional changes. This sense also allows for perceiving gravity. The sensory system for this is found in your inner ears and is called the vestibular labyrinthine system. Anyone who’s ever had this sense go out on them on occasion knows how important this is. When it’s not working or malfunctioning, you literally can’t tell up from down and moving from one location to another without aid is nearly impossible.
    • Stretch Receptors: These are found in such places as the lungs, bladder, stomach, and the gastrointestinal tract. A type of stretch receptor, that senses dilation of blood vessels, is also often involved in headaches.
    • Chemoreceptors: These trigger an area of the medulla in the brain that is involved in detecting blood born hormones and drugs. It also is involved in the vomiting reflex.
    • Thirst: This system more or less allows your body to monitor its hydration level and so your body knows when it should tell you to drink.
    • Hunger: This system allows your body to detect when you need to eat something.
    • Magentoception: This is the ability to detect magnetic fields, which is principally useful in providing a sense of direction when detecting the Earth’s magnetic field. Unlike most birds, humans do not have a strong magentoception, however, experiments have demonstrated that we do tend to have some sense of magnetic fields. The mechanism for this is not completely understood; it is theorized that this has something to do with deposits of ferric iron in our noses. This would make sense if that is correct as humans who are given magnetic implants have been shown to have a much stronger magnetoception than humans without.
    • Time: This one is debated as no singular mechanism has been found that allows people to perceive time. However, experimental data has conclusively shown humans have a startling accurate sense of time, particularly when younger. The mechanism we use for this seems to be a distributed system involving the cerebral cortex, cerebellum, and basal ganglia. Long term time keeping seems to be monitored by the suprachiasmatic nuclei (responsible for the circadian rhythm). Short term time keeping is handled by other cell systems.
  • outsmartthesystem
    outsmartthesystem

    I have not read all the posts yet.....but does anyone else get the feeling like this entire thread was nothing but an infomercial to tout this product?

    http://www.amazon.com/Theta-Meditation-System/dp/B001200T08/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1324782020&sr=8-12

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    Yep, got that feeling a few pages and a pm ago.

  • NewChapter
    NewChapter

    LOL yep me too Mrs. J. The pm gave it away.

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    The commonly held human senses are as follows:

    Thanks for that, dear Q (again, peace to you!), although I think the term "commonly held" is debatable. Commonly held by WHOM? I'm not sure by the dear "common" folk here (who are the ones reading the posts, versus, say, someone who writes for Science Digest, etc. I think the following (which I "Googled") is accurate, too, then:

    "Human beings have a multitude of senses. In addition to the traditionally recognized five senses of sight (ophthalmoception), hearing (audioception), taste (gustaoception), smell (olfacoception or olfacception), and touch (tactioception), other senses include temperature (thermoception), kinesthetic sense (proprioception), pain (nociception), balance (equilibrioception) and acceleration (kinesthesioception). What constitutes a sense is a matter of some debate, leading to difficulties in defining what exactly a sense is."

    Given the debate... the fact that many don't know of/recognize the others as "senses"... and the fact that I believe there are actually more than even these (even some animals have sense we don't)... I tried to make it SIMPLE... by narrowing it down to what MOST recognize as "empirical" senses. Again, science is YOUR thing, so I wasn't trying to give a science lesson, per se. I leave that to you. (NOTE: I was tempted to offer to leave science and what it teaches you entirely to you... and those you wish to share it with... if you agreed to leave my Lord... and what he teaches ME... entirely to me and those I wish to share it with; however, I just don't think you'd go for that, so... here we are. Again.).

    Again, peace to you!

    YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

    SA

  • cofty
    cofty

    I was tempted to offer to leave science and what it teaches you entirely to you... and those you wish to share it with... if you agreed to leave my Lord... and what he teaches ME

    Stephen Jay Gould suggested something like this, he called it "non-overlapping magesterium". It was never going to work, believers can't help themselves but stray into the domain of science. Every time you use the word "spirit" or talk about virgin births or earthwide floods, or creation you cross the line.

    In this thread you have stomped all over science.

  • NewChapter
    NewChapter

    In this thread you have stomped all over science.

    Stomped all over it like it was a big blue barrel. It was so bad, I didn't even know where to start.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu15Ou-jKM0

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    believers can't help themselves but stray into the domain of science.

    Most believers don't even want to go there, dear Cofty (peace to you!), so I must disagree. What occurred here... and occurs most often... is that they're forced into that domain. By those whose limitations restrict them from understanding/perceiving/seeing... and hearing... anything other than what science says is "possible." Ever wonder how many people thought the earth was flat... because "science" said so? (And it did, if we're talking what was discernable to the senses... and absent a boat.) Science said cats and dogs were color-blind. It now says cats see color. I have two dogs; trust me, they're not color-blind, either.

    Right now, science says E=mc 2 . And a whole LOT of folks believe that to be true. What, though, if something is "discovered" to show that that equation isn't totally accurate?

    Every time you use the word "spirit" or talk about virgin births or earthwide floods, or creation you cross the line.

    No, every time we talk about such things, you drag us across the line. You gloat over those who refuse to go... take cheap "shots" at those who go reluctantly... and try to decapitate (or at least slander/libel) those who go willingly. Says to ME... it is YOU who something to fear, not us. I mean, if we're SO wrong... science should be able to prove that.

    Until it DOES, however, those like you tend to show themselves more in line with religious zealots who tolerate NOTHING and NO ONE that doesn't agree with them... than any other people on the planet.

    In this thread you have stomped all over science.

    If you say so; of course, I don't agree. Even so, I'm not the first, surely... nor will I be the last. But truly, you've nothing to fear from little ol' me...

    Again, peace to you...

    YOUR servant... yes, indeedy... and a slave of Christ,

    SA

  • NewChapter
    NewChapter

    Ever wonder how many people thought the earth was flat... because "science" said so

    Science did not say so---people did. Aristotle knew the earth was a sphere. Astronomers had been studying the night sky and understood we weren't flat. I believe Aristotle even managed to hypothesize on the size of the earth---and he was very, very close. Columbus and everyone else knew the earth was round and they weren't going to sail off the edge.

    Right now, science says E=mc 2 .

    And this is a scientific theory. It is out here for anyone who can to falsify it. A few months ago, some researchers claimed to find particles that move faster than the speed of light---I haven't heard anything lately, but if that is true, this theory will need to be revised. When was the last time a religious person opened their beliefs up to falsification and adjusted their views?

    Look if you have faith simply because you have faith, and you don't need for things to be proven and you reject anything that falsifies those beliefs---fine. But don't drag science into it, mix it up, misrepresent it and try to use it to prove those beliefs. We apply science to the natural world. You apply faith. We think that is shortsighted and even blind denial---you think we simply lack faith or the capacity to truly accept things on faith because we say prove it. It baffles us that even when proven wrong, ideas stick around and gain credence with time. It baffles you that we can't throw reason to the wind and just take god's word for it. You say you know what god says, and which god says it, and how to get that information. And you are right about that regardless of the myriads of ways that billions of people access this god, you have found the truth in the matter. We say that is not reasonable. So it's an impasse.

    Just try not to misrepresent science and try to understand that we work with theories that we fully understand can one day be falsified---which is exciting because it means more knowledge and more benefits. So enjoy your computer, and your lights, and your modern world while refusing to understand the brains and methods that went into providing those things for you. Thank your god instead. It will still be there for you.

    NC

  • cofty
    cofty

    Shelby you distort your opponents position at every turn.

    I mean, if we're SO wrong... science should be able to prove that.

    It can and does as has been demonstrated frequently. It makes no difference to somebody who is unfetterd by facts.

    You have invented a magic carpet to take you wherever you wish. Happy days.

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