Atheists..... throwing the baby out with the bath water ?

by snare&racket 403 Replies latest jw friends

  • cofty
    cofty

    Some people just don't have it (faith). Some do. - Tec

    Translated as - Some people refuse to believe stuff without sufficient evidence, others think its a virtue.

  • NewChapter
    NewChapter

    Some people just don't have it (faith).

    This persistent idea that atheists lack something. At least I don't look at you and say you are lacking something. I believe you have all you need--not that you are missing something. My discussions center on asking to use what I know you have and can use---yours dismiss me as I simply don't get it. I used to have faith---I understand it well. I was a true believer, no hesitations. It was all connected to what was already here, in all of us, thinking ability. It was how I thought about things, not some mystical trait that I simply didn't possess. There is nothing lacking in here.

    NC

  • N.drew
    N.drew

    I do not think faith is a virtue. I believe faith is power. Of course it can be a virtue, just as atheists have their virtues sans faith.

  • NewChapter
    NewChapter

    I think you are wrong, Ndrew, to assert that atheists have no faith. Actually we do, but it is evidence based. For instance, if I know someone that is really good at remodeling kitchens, and I've seen their work and consistency, I may conclude that I have faith in their abilities and hire them to do my kitchen. I do not lack the ability to have faith. On the other hand, my very reason for existing is not bound up in faith. While I have faith in the individual, I also understand no one is perfect, and therefore they could mess up my kitchen. But I have faith that the risk is unlikely. Should it happen, my entire worldview will not take any serious hits.

    NC

  • N.drew
    N.drew

    I think you are right! Are you remodeling?

  • NewChapter
    NewChapter

    LOL! Yes I am. A friend is doing it, and it's not his usual business, so it tool LOT's and LOT's of faith. LOL

  • Bonnie_Clyde
    Bonnie_Clyde

    It seems to me like there are more atheists on this board (percentage-wise) than there are in general. I talk to many non-jw people in my area (some quite well educated) who believe in God and are quite religious.

  • Qcmbr
    Qcmbr

    tec can you ever conceive of a point where you no longer have faith and yet are still you?

  • NewChapter
    NewChapter

    I think what happens is that once the critical thinking skills that got us out of a cult kick in, EVERYTHING get's questioned. It can't be turned off. Some still believe after this happens, but I'm pretty sure that most of them have given it a great deal of critical thought. Then we come here and argue about our conclusions. It's great fun.

    NC

  • N.drew
    N.drew

    It is great fun, isn't it?

    Greetings Bonnie_Clyde!!

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