LOGICAL - Why are you always so sad, fed up & (page 2)

flower

Lisa,

with all due respect, we all need flesh and blood friends and its just as difficult for some of us as it is for Logical. I'm so tired of the 'Logical is special' crap. You think there is no one else around like him/her??? Open your eyes and do a little research.

Logical, stop hiding behind your little 'i'm different' crappy excuses and get a life already. If I could force myself to have a life with social anxiety, agoraphobia, major depression, panic attacks, with NO friends or support and a family that treats me like crap then you can get off your ass and have a life too.

I'm not buying the bullshit babe. If I gave Logic the money for the operation I have a feeling he/she would still find some reason to be miserable. You are what you are Logic. Make the most of it cause life is too darn short to sit there miserable or pretending to be miserable all day.

flower

LDH

Flower you said:

Lisa,
with all due respect, we all need flesh and blood friends and its just as difficult for some of us as it is for Logical.

Then YOU TOO deserve the patience of those around you.

Just because you have been 'healed'--others don't get healed according to YOUR timeline.

You think there is no one else around like Logi??? Open your eyes and do a little research.

Your words sound a little vitriolic. Not only do I *KNOW* there are others like Logi, I am related to someone like Logi.

If you and the others don't want to deal with Logi then why are you always asking for 'reasons for Logical's behavior?'

For Christ's sake leave it alone already.

Logical is obviously very sick and in need of professional treatment that NONE of us are capable of giving.

So, until *LOGICAL* is ready for that help, I have two suggestions for all of you.

1. Ignore Logical
2. Put up with Logical's ideosyncracies

PERIOD.

Lisa
Shaking her head class

safe4kids

Gee folks,

Have a little compassion will you? Flower, I appreciate what you have to say and you're right, Logical is really the only person who can help Logical, to a large degree. Staying on the pity-pot is certainly not helping matters. However, I've been there, as I would imagine many of us have.

Problem is, some people have never been taught the necessary skills to deal with life and its problems. Logi is young and in a pretty bad situation. Also, some of the people taking shots at Logical haven't been here very long and haven't seen the progress she's made. Lisa raised a valid point: perhaps it's slower than some of you would like but it is progress nonetheless.

Solution: if Logi's posts and comments bother you, don't read them.

Dana

Englishman

OK S4K!

Hmmm. He / She....which is it?

Englishman.

Truth exists;only falsehood has to be invented. -Georges Braque

ZazuWitts

LDH,

Very well-stated, and I am in agreement with your conclusions. Thanks! (((Hugs))) to Logical.

mommy

Celtic,
You have touched my eyeball And Flower honey you haven't known him that long, I understand your frustration I really do, but you are wrong in many of the things you said about Logi.

Logical takes a very long time to trust someone, I am living proof of that. It took months and months before he started to open up to me. Do you people realize all of the "good advice" you are giving he is probably getting 300 fold? The only thing you can do is hope he is happy, when you reach this point instead of wanting results your frustration will cease. And you may perhaps see another side to him.

Logical has many, many times uplifted me. He has shocked me with the kindness in his heart and the love he has to give. Even on this forum he has encouraged others, sorry you all missed it, but he has. He is a very intelligent person and very funny. Perhaps he has built his own wall around him because he does not want to be hurt. For others to tell him it is time to tear down that wall, over and over again, does nothing but make him more insecure with what is behind it.

As far as what he has contributed to this community. I didn't know we were taking account. Is there a limit of support? Is there a time we can no longer come here? At what stage is a person said to be no longer worthy to post or chat here? As far as I know over the past 15 months I have been here, there have only been a precious few who are no longer welcome.

If Logical bothers you, why do you feel it is neccessary to publicly state it? He has real problems, he is getting real help, and because he doesn't do it according to your timeline you are willing to give up on him? Hmmm sounds like Logical is the only one progressing in this case. You are not able to set demands or limits on anothers mental health, no matter what amount of time you have given him.

Logi I love ya honey!
wendy

mommy

Lisa,
I was typing when you were lol I just wanted to say Amen to that
wendy

Eman,

Hmmm. He / She....which is it?

Therein lies most of the problem. You do not even know half of what Logi has gone through, I just know if you did you would be more understanding.
wendy

flower

I've been healed? Really?? When did this happen and why didnt anyone tell me? woohoo its a miracle!

just kidding Lisa, i'm not wanting to argue or anything. the fact of the matter there are many of us who have problems. maybe not the same underlying problem as logic but the results are the same. depression, anxiety, not wanting to go on. my underlying problems havent gone anywhere but the difference is i took it upon myself to make a choice to make the most of my life no matter how much i wanted it to be different. then when i got here i took advantage of the love, kindess and concern that the people here showed to me. i took advice that was given and used it whenever i could. someone gives me a link to a site that may have helpful information on it for me I go there and read and reasearch. someone tells me what they did to help themselves and i try it for myself. thats the whole point. action.

you want to know why we bother dealing with logic instead of just ignoring him/her. the truth is we DO ignore him for the most part until he pops out with another one of his posts like the one he posted a couple days ago "why does everyone ignore me??? ". or should we ignore those posts too? do you really think that everyone ignoring logic is what he needs? obviously not or he wouldnt have posted that post.

People here have been very patient with me and they have been for logical as well even more so. its not right to imply that people are impatient with logicals progress or any such thing and that its our problem. thats ridiculous. you think because he doesnt crash chat anymore that is progress? lol...too funny.

people have every right to ask logic what mark did in his post here. why shouldnt he be required to behave like other people do in a society? oh thats right i forgot, hes special and different and unique and alone and .....

flower

bigboi

1. Ignore Logical

IMO, the best advice offered so far in this thread as far as those who don't like him are concerned.

The little sad smiley thing has go to be an act. Besides, when I first came here, he was far, far worse than he is now. At least he does manage to post other things besides posts with sad smilies and as far as i know he doesn't spam the chat room anymore.

ONE....

bigboi

flower

see this is what i dont understand. it is suggested that publically posting something negative about logical is wrong. but have you ever called logical on the carpet about how he treats people in this forum? why do you give him special leway when it comes to his behavior? logicals behavior has been nothing short of downright hurtful! i have been kind and courteous, supportive and tried to be helpful to logical just like i would be towards anyone else who needed it. when someone ANYONE tells me 'i'm a freak, i hate myself' or any of the other catch phrases that he has, my natural instict is to help. you think its easy to give of yourself when you are already having a hard time yourself and then be treated like shit? you think i and others havent been mentally and emotionally abused enough in our lives?

what am i talking about? well lets see..when i have tried to help logical in the past i get either get:

1.ignored completely
(geez i get ignored completely by the jw asshole family members i live with who seem to rather enjoy acting as if i dont exist and more importantly that i 'shouldnt' exist after my horrific sins..i shouldnt have to deal with that when i come to an xjw community.

2.told that i dont know anything
(sounds very familiar to a statement i heard about a million times growing up. its funny how no matter how much research i do on a subject that certain people have never even heard of i still dont know anything and in fact its a waste of time to even hear me out)

3.one word answers
(because i suppose some 'special' people dont have to show common courtesy and respect for their fellow man)

4.talked to until i hit on a good question or thought provoking point then get ignored or even walked out on.
(just down right rude and ignorant in my opinion to walk out in the middle of a conversation)

and when i ignore logical i have to deal with the damn poor me posts that are designed to make people feel guilty. i've dealt with enough forced guilt to last a lifetime and again we shouldnt have to come here and be emotionally manipulated again!

yes i know that how i have grown up and what i have dealt with in the past is no ones fault here but i am not alone..a LOT of people here understand what i went through cause they or someone they know have gone through the abuse too. so knowing this is a community where a lot of people have deal with emotional and mental abuse (among other things) why is it OK for Logical to behave in a hurtful, rude, selfish manner, and not OK for anyone to speak up about it?

We blast the trolls that come in here and be hurtful so what is it that makes hurting people ok and how can i get it cause i've got a few people in here i'd like to tell off just kidding.

flower

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