Why I Hate Religion

by Christ Alone 136 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • tec
    tec

    This place can be hard on those who believe in Christ and God. But you do not have to leave in order to keep your faith. There are many of faith here, including myself, who have somehow managed to keep their faith.

    There are Christians here but if you are honest in the end the atheist win all ther arguments.

    Lol... I guess that would depend on your pov, and which side of the argument you stood on to begin with :wink:

    Peace, and also a belated welcome to Christ Alone.

    Preaching is a trigger point with some who are hurting here, so you can understand some of the reactions you might receive if they perceive you to be preaching to them.

    Tammy

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  • Celestial
    Celestial
    I know this is a few months old. But I think it's profound to people that still think like the WT trained them to think. Even after coming out of the WT, they still feel that all Christians believe that they ALONE have the true religion or denomination. While we, as Christians, do believe that Jesus is the ONLY way, truth, and life, we do NOT believe that you have to belong to our personal denomination or religion. All that believe in Jesus alone are saved, no matter the denomination.

    The same religious text that identifies Jesus as the Messiah outlines a logical framework for an organizational structure God approves of. The idea that God has an organization to represent his interests is found throughout the Bible. The nation of Israel in the Hebrew scriptures was a biological race with geographic boundaries, chosen by God because of the Davidic bloodline starting with Adam and ending with the foretold Messiah. (Luke 3:23-38) Jehovah foretold a new covenant by the prophet Jeremiah in the seventh century B.C.E. (Jeremiah 31:31-34), replacing a literal race or nationality, stating that it would not be like the law covenant, which Israel broke. On the night before his death, Nisan 14, 33 C.E., when he established the celebration of the Lord’s Evening Meal, Jesus Christ announced the new covenant, to be validated by his sacrifice.

    In view of the Mosaic law covenant replaced by the Christian congregation, an organizational pattern was still outlined by the first century Christians.

    In fact, to this [course] you were called, because even Christ suffered for you, leaving you a model for you to follow his steps closely. 1 Peter 2:21

    And let us consider one another to incite to love and fine works, not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as you behold the day drawing near. Hebrews 10:24-25

    "Gathering of ourselves together" outlines a congregational arrangement in the same pattern as the first century Christians.

    According to the Bible, simply acknowledging Jesus as a savior as a display of faith, without fine works is dead in itself.

    Thus, too, faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself. James 2:17

    “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness. Matthew 7:21-23

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  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Even that has to be viewed with caution. I view Jesus as nothing more than an apostate Jew that died trying to save mankind from Jehovah, not as someone still alive and is rendering salvation to us now. What usually happens is that such people (usually apostates against the established religion) have their details altered so they appear to be super-faithful and having died as a ransom for mankind. Which is modeled after the sun.

    Thus, next time you do something Christian, take a look at how it applies to the sun. The sun is life-giving, "dies" on the Southern Cross and is resurrected after 3 days (every year), comes in the clouds, has a crown of thorns if conditions are right (haze is ideal), and offers a measure of protection to us. It also has 12 "disciples"--the Zodiac signs. It is preceded by the Star of Bethlehem on Christmas Morning (which is actually Sirius), and the Three Kings (actually a line of stars pointing to Sirius, and on Christmas morning, where the sun is going to come up). But, don't necessarily abandon it because it is sun worship. The sun is proven to give us life, which is more than can be said about Jesus or any of the other 20 precursors his life was plagiarized from.

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  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    He is quite amusing isn't he?

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  • still thinking
    still thinking
    Well, there are a billion Catholics

    THAT is debateable...they like to count anyone who was ever a catholic...even children that had no choice...hell I am still probably counted as one because I see no point in telling them otherwise...the didn't ask me if I wanted to be one...I am under no obligation to advise them I am not. Most catholics stop being catholic and they never know. I personally know lots.

    Anyway...since when did numbers make something right? Arent there 7 million JW's...does that make them right too?

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  • Sulla
    Sulla

    Don't know when I said numbers make it right, still thinking, that is your own comment. What I said was that the very large numbers of Catholics and Christians that exist today are the result of the Church's activity over a couple thousand years. Therefore, something about spreading the gospel was most likely one of the things the Church was all about.

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  • designs
    designs

    'convert or else' was a game changer...

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  • Sulla
    Sulla

    Don't think that was a common method of conversion, to be honest. And even if it was, you'd have to admit it was more efficient than knocking on doors.

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  • tornapart
    tornapart

    A couple of nice websites for ex JWs who are still believers in Christ: jwstruggle.com and 21st-century-christians.org

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  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut
    There are Christians here but if you are honest in the end the atheist win all the arguments.
    If you want to keep your faith, you need to preach to the choir.

    Christ Alone (can I call him Bro. Dan) is not just participating in arguments (can we call them debates). He is here on a mission similar to that of pioneer JW's, except he doesn't turn in a time card. He's out to "save" us heathens.

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