Is the Watchtower shy about repeating their new "generation" teaching?

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  • THE GLADIATOR
    THE GLADIATOR

    Overlapping Generations

    The Society had always insisted that the 144,000 chosen to rule in heaven with Jesus as kings and priests were chosen by 1935, before the heavenly calling was closed. Yet, in 1995 they repeated this claim:

    Logically, the calling of the little flock would draw to a close when the number was nearing completion, and the evidence is that the general gathering of these specially blessed ones ended in 1935.

    The Watchtower 15 February 1995 - page 19

    This is important because one of the Society’s main teachings was that the end would come during the lifetime of the generation that was alive in 1914 and would include members of the 144,000 heavenly calling, also called, ‘the little flock.’ In 2007 this teaching was significantly altered:

    Hence especially after 1966 it was believed that the heavenly calling ceased in 1935. Thereafter, any called to the heavenly hope were believed to be replacements for anointed Christians who had proved unfaithful. Thus it appears that we can not set a specific date for when the calling of Christians to the heavenly hope ends.

    The Watchtower 1 May 2007 - pages 30-31

    That generation had now long since passed away and the Society had to paper over the gaps in their prediction. They issued many statements in an attempt to deflect the attention for their failed prophecies away from themselves and onto the membership:

    Finally, we might consider what the Society has published in the past on chronology. Some opposers claim that Jehovah's Witnesses are false prophets. These opponents say that dates have been set, but nothing has happened. Again we ask, what is the motive of these critics? Are they encouraging wakefulness on the part of God's people, or are they, rather, trying to justify themselves for falling back into sleepy inactivity?

    The Watchtower 15 March - page 18

    The Society were now saying that 1935 was no longer the cut off date for members of the 144,000. This change paved the way for their planned change in the meaning of a generation. In 2008 the Society continued to explain away more of this cornerstone belief. Until now they had taught that ‘this generation’ referred to wicked unbelieving Jews. They had carried this idea forward and given it a modern-day fulfilment, applying it to ‘the wicked ‘generation of unbelievers’ in our own time who would see the end of the system of things. They explained that the apostles would no doubt have understood that they and their fellow disciples were to be part of the generation that would not pass away until all these things occur. Referring to themselves as ‘the modern-day John class,’ they announced:

    On the other hand, Christ's faithful anointed brothers, the modern-day John class, have recognized this sign as if it were a flash of lightning and have understood its true meaning. As a class, these anointed ones make up ‘the modern-day generation’ of contemporaries that will not pass away ‘until all these things occur.’ This suggests that some who are Christ's anointed brothers will still be alive on earth when the foretold great tribulation begins.

    The Watchtower 15 February 2008 - pages 23-24

    This generation no longer just referred to wicked unbelievers but to anointed believers. In the 2010 further changes were made under the heading, ‘Holy Spirit’s Role in the Outworking of Jehovah’s Purpose:

    Third, holy spirit is at work in bringing Bible truths to light. (Prov. 4:18) This magazine has long been used by ’the faithful and discreet slave’ as the primary channel for dispensing increased light. (Matt.24:45) For example, consider our understanding of those who make up ‘this generation’ mentioned by Jesus. (Read Matthew 24:32-34.) To what generation did Jesus refer? The article ‘Christ’s Presence— What Does It Mean to You?’ explained that Jesus was referring, not to the wicked, but to his disciples, who were soon to be anointed with holy spirit. Jesus’ anointed followers, both in the first century and in our day, would be the ones who would not only see the sign but also discern its meaning —that Jesus ‘is near at the doors. What does this explanation mean to us? Although we cannot measure the exact length of ‘this generation,’ we do well to keep in mind several things about the word ‘generation’: It usually refers to people of varying ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period; it is not excessively long; and it has an end. (Ex. 1:6) How, then, are we to understand Jesus’ words about ‘this generation’? He evidently meant that the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see the start of the great tribulation. That generation had a beginning, and it surely will have an end. The fulfillment of the various features of the sign clearly indicate that the tribulation must be near. By maintaining your sense of urgency and keeping on the watch, you show that you are keeping up with advancing light and following the leadings of holy spirit.

    The Watchtower 2010 Apr 15 - page 10

    The Society had introduced the idea of an ‘overlapping generations model.’ This is a concept in which if people’s lives overlap into the next generation's lives they can be considered to be one generation. It’s a bit like playing tag! They stated:

    We do not know the exact length of ‘this generation,’ but it includes these two groups whose lives overlap. Even though the anointed vary in age, those in the two groups constituting the generation are contemporaries during the part of the last days. How comforting it is to know that the younger anointed contemporaries of those older anointed ones who discerned the sign when it became evident beginning in 1914 will not die off before the great tribulation starts!

    The Watchtower 15 June 2010 - page 5

    The cornerstone teaching that had, for more than a hundred years, predicted the end of the present world within the lifetime of those who witnessed the 1914 world war was now obsolete. The generation with the earthly hope had expected to live long enough to enter the new world and cheat death. Those belonging to the ‘little flock’ with a heavenly calling had been promised they would receive their reward within their lifetime. Beaten by the passage of time the Watchtower Society had been forced to move the date for the battle of Armageddon on - indefinitely. Now they were to be comforted by knowing that their younger anointed contemporaries, or the overlapping contemporaries that followed, would enjoy this privilege.

    I have done my best to explain these changes clearly and as simply as possible, including as few quotes as possible to accurately show the change that has taken place. If you are confused, then you are not alone. Many members of the Watchtower Society are still trying to make sense of the new flash of light that has moved the goalpost even further away. Instead or Armageddon being ‘just around the corner’ it has been put on hold indefinitely.

    Taken from the book Can Jehovah's Witnesses SURVIVE? By Trevor Willis.

  • Alfred
    Alfred

    YES... This is one teaching that NO analytical JW can look someone in the eye and say that they firmly believe Jesus was referring to TWO Overlapping Generations of Annointed Ones... yet the GB has managed to stretch Matthew 24:34 beyond any remotely credible interpretation...

    But I think they are absolutely embarassed to repeat this more than necessary because it is a lot less sustainable than the previous 7 definitions in the last 20 years...

    Also, notice the amount of times the word "Generation" is mentioned in the WT magazine...

    50's 529 times

    60's 624 times

    70's 607 times (with noticeable spike in 1974)

    80's 428 times

    90's 408 times

    00's 168 times

    2010-2019 (trending towards a low number around 65)

    By the 2020's, the Watchtower will have completely revamped their "dooms-day" recuitment strategy using some other Biblical "prophecy" (throwing the generation teaching back in the freezer).

  • NVR2L8
    NVR2L8

    I couldn't tell because I haven't been back to a meeting since the famous generation talk at the DA on June 13, 2010. WT review covered was the article discussing the new light on the generation...double whammy and I quited cold turkey.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    They should be shy about repeating it, the doctrine is nonsense on stilts.

  • St George of England
    St George of England

    It is never mentioned these days. Meetings have become like the magazines - SIMPLIFIED.

    George

  • Disillusioned Lost-Lamb
    Disillusioned Lost-Lamb

    They don’t mention a lot of things anymore, if they say it, you got it and move on; don’t dwell or linger, that’s what gets them in trouble.

    @George: Simplified is going too easy on them, they've become downright stoopified.

    The meat-ings, light-brite and noo litera-turd don't go very deep anymore, which is funny because they always tell us to look into the deep things of God, er wash-towel. The truth is they know the septic tanks about to blow and anyone going to check on it had better be in a hazmat suit and tread lightly. This is why they stoopify things so you can understand their meanings without any extracurricular study; that way you don’t unsuspectingly go “outside” and find all the s**t below the landscaping.

  • Terry
    Terry

    Think of all Witness doctrines as "trial balloons". That way nothing will surprise you later.

  • Lazarus
    Lazarus

    At the current 2-day assembly they said everyone who doesn't believe the "overlapping generations" and asks the elders or the org is a "nagger". Then, in a table talk, the teaching was explained again. The poor brother had to read everything from his sheet and stumbled many times. It was so incomprehensible, you could literally hear some 800 heads scratch.

    Finally the speaker said "And now, there no questions left." Hilarious.

  • james_woods
    james_woods

    I think that Slimboyfat is onto something here.

    This is the first "new light" I have ever seen from the JWs that has had actual open dissention.

    For proof that there is open dissention over it - look at the assembly parts targeted against people who are resisting this "teaching".

    However ridiculous it is, they seem to be stuck with it now, and maybe the best thing would be to let it die down quietly.

    Just speculation - but could it be that there are anti-overlappers and pro-overlappers at the high levels? This was, after all, true during the 1975 mess.

  • snare&racket
    snare&racket

    Lol.....

    Those quotes above are the first time in ages I have read Watchtower 'language'. It's sooo....embarrassing and strange. It evokes feelings of creepyness and also WTF are they going on about? Its such a convoluted, synthetic-zeal driven syntax that feels so lacking in substance. When you pick up a Dawkins or Hawking book (hawking especially) the density of information in every sentence is nourishing to the mind and where appropriate, to the deepest emotions too. When Prof Brian Cox described the universe altering around a man exciting the molecules in a diamond by simply touching it, it doesn't just nourish the intellect, but touches the sentiments of being a human in our universe, the knowledge we have come to know. Compare this to the Watchtower, it's like drinking sand when you are thirsting for water. Sand that tells you it IS refreshing, and to deny it would be mentally diseased or satanic.

    No other literature I have read,be it fiction or non, textbook or journal or even commentaries, not one have the strange 'us against them'/ defence lawyer/ this is why we are right, approach to writing. The Watchtower starts so many sentences with 'surely..' or 'let us...' unique in being so determined to steer the reader not inform them. Have they learned nothing from their past? They were MORE confident than this with their older Generation teachings, aka false teachings, false prophecy.

    Strange. Again it just goes to show how normal something seems if you are brought up in it or if everyone else is doing it. Though to be fair MOST JWs don't read the mags at all. Utter shallow garbage, the best section being Watching the world, stolen from the national geographic, science, nature, new York times and for some strange reason quite often La Monde?.

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