Is the Watchtower shy about repeating their new "generation" teaching? (page 20)

00DAD

WBF: God must be behind NO RELIGION, since NO RELIGION is the fastest growing.

Well I don't want to miss out on all the fun! Where do I join up for "No Religion"? Do we have meetings? What are our beliefs?

Egg - You should know that I do not rely upon the subjective judgments of others for the decisions I make and the conclusions I draw. If anyone's conscience should accuse the person, it is a sin for that person and they should not be here, but if one's conscience should excuse the person, then they commit no sin. (Romans 2:15; James 4:17) No one can decide for me who is an apostate and who isn't an apostate. Many of you have Bibles, but put more faith in the hype than the things that Bible teaches so that you parrot as doctrines what others believe to be sins, or rules or commands, when what is being spread is opinion, falsehood, lies like 'the Society instructs you not to post on sites like this one.'

outsmart - Oh....what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive. Here is a quote from Egg on a different topic that we discussed last summer. "If anyone desires to buy a raffle ticket, he is free to do so; if anyone desires to wear a beard, he is free to wear one. If anyone feels he must continue his association with a disfellowshipped person, that's ok; he is free to do this as well, but in his engaging in any such conduct when admonished not to do so, he is not submitting to God's arrangement, and this is the point." So DJ....why do you feel that it is no longer necessary to "submit to God's arrangement" by associating on an unapproved website with unapproved associates? Have you "taken a stand against the arrangement of God?"

Egg - You're off-topic.

outsmart - Perhaps. But please.....for the benefit of those that may be lurking here.....go ahead and answer. How, exactly are you "submitting to God's arrangement" by ignoring admonitions that come from his "faithful slave"?

Egg...you cowardly sack of monkey excrement......quit hiding. Answer the question. I don't care if it is off topic. The only reason you don't want to answer it is because you know you can't do so successfully.

outsmartthesystem

outsmart - I found this gem of an article.. "Modesty on the part of the faithful and discreet slave class, commissioned to provide the Christian household with food at the proper time, prevents it from presumptuously running ahead and wildly speculating about things that are still unclear. WT - 6-1-1997 p 14"Egg - "This is called speculation."

Interestingly, earlier in this thread, Gladiator posted a snippet from the now infamous 1969 Awake magazine to which Egg responded with the following:

Outsmart - So again.....I thought the FDS didn't speculate?

Notice how Egg manages to respond with his nonsense to selective questions.

outsmartthesystem

Egg - "But this would be your opinion, wouldn't it? I don't think such speculations to be information coming from God, and most of those who are Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe this either, so my question to you is this: Why did you? What was it about the information you heard when you were regularly associating with God's organization that intimated to you that there were men behind the organization?"

So then Eggster, let me ask you a question. With this latest disaster of an interpretation regarding what truly constitutes a "generation" coming from the Powers that Be in New York..........is this latest explanation cosidered by you to be "information coming from God" or is it merely "speculation".

Ucantnome

Djeggnog,

Yes, it is different. The Proclaimers book is not discussing the good news from the standpoint of what was being preached during the first century AD, but discussing the good news from the standpoint of what was being preached during the 20th century when it first became apparent, in 1925, that the Messianic Kingdom had been born, that Christ had begun to rule and that Satan had but only a short period of time remaining. The point being made is that this was good news to Jehovah's Witnesses back in 1925, and that this good news in particular also needed to be proclaimed as well. Get it now? In case you didn't know, the Proclaimers book is a diary that relates the modern-day history of Jehovah's Witnesses leading up to when the good news began to be proclaimed as to the establishment of God's kingdom in 1914.

Was this the good news?

Bungi Bill

I join with the others who caution that replying to this troll only feeds it:

- particularly an attention freak like this one!

Bill.

castthefirststone

Hey djeggnog you wrote this:

When an adult says to me what you just said to me here, @castthefirststone, I could either ask the person, "Why didn't you finish high school?" which might be regarded by that person as being mean, or I could say to the person, "I'm sorry, but you misconstrued what this article was saying," which might inflame the person to want to be argumentative with me in positing what is really going to be a losing argument.

You actually said something true in this, I am uneducated therefore I want you to educate me. How did you know I am uneducated? You are really good, the Holy Spirit is evident in your writings.

By your own admission there is evidence of speculation found in the food distributed by the Faithful and Discreet Slave. Therefore if speculation exists in the publications, how can an uneducated person, like myself, distinguish between fact and speculation?

Even with the Simplified English version of the Watchtower I find it very hard to know when our John Class are handing out proper food and when it's speculative food. So please help me by explaining it to me.

Black Sheep

I join with the others who caution that replying to this troll only feeds it:

I don't agree that it is a troll, Bill.

It is just a generic JW, using generic JW tactics and logic. The only difference is that this one ignores the WT advice not to engage with opposers.

We are his/her friends. He/she just hasn't worked that out yet.

Chris

Bubblegum Apotheosis

This thread would not have been enjoyable without djegg, he is not calling anyone "apostates" is he? Jesus preached to the Pharisees, Sadducces and Scribes, knowing only a few were going to listen. Some Bible scholars teach Jesus Christ preached to the demons, after rising from the dead (Peter). Djegg knows about JWN's ability to attrack wide group of inviduals, with various personal likes and dislikes, makes this site so addictive.

If djegg is a troll, what benefit is he gaining by sharing his Bible views and areas he agrees with the Organization? , Djegg has not retreated like most unread dubs, is it possible he likes us? I fear we are over using the word "Apostate" and turning it into "Shibboleths".

Vidqun

"If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things."

Let's again agree to disagree. If I want to speculate, I will keep the word "fact" as far as possible from my speculative piece. That's the logical thing to do. Let's call it a slip of the pen then, it's actually a "speculative fact". I think we have coined a new phrase yet again, which can join the "overlapping generation" phrase. Regular phraseologists we are, coining new phrases like that.

Is the Watchtower shy about repeating their new "generation" teaching?

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