America Will Execute Brit Today.

by Englishman 91 Replies latest jw friends

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    EXECUTION MORATORIUM IS NO HOLIDAY FOR HOMICIDES

    by Dale O. Cloninger and Roberto Marchesini

    While the Governor of Illinois has declared a moratorium on executions to study guilt and innocent issues of condemned murderers, reports circulate that the Governor of Nebraska and the President of the United States are considering similar moratoriums. Opponents of capital punishment are pushing for moratoriums as at least temporary reprieves for the death penalty. In light of these efforts, our current research suggests that the number of homicides rose as a result of a recent unofficial moratorium on executions in Texas.

    On January 2, 1996 the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals granted a stay of execution in Davis, ex parte (947 S.W.2d 216; 1996). The effect of this order was the delay of all but three executions in Texas during 1996. In the prior three years Texas executed an average of 17 death row inmates per year. The appeals court lifted its stay on December 18, 1996 and executions resumed on February 10, 1997. Practicing catch-up, Texas executed 37 inmates in the remaining months of 1997. Thus, in back-to-back years, the change in actual executions was twelve fold. This dramatic double reversal in the number of executions provides an opportunity to compare, in the same population, the impact of a temporary execution moratorium on the incidence of homicides.

    In our study, we developed a statistical model that links changes in the incidence of Texas homicides with corresponding changes in national homicides over the immediate preceding "normal" period, 1990-1995. Using this model, we estimated the number of homicides for each month of 1996 and 1997. Treating the sudden cessation of executions and the resumption of executions at double the average rate as "events", we compared the estimated monthly homicides in the two post-events periods with the actual number of homicides (after allowing for a 30 day lag).

    During the first post-event period, we found that the actual number of homicides exceeded the predicted number of homicides in nine of the thirteen months and significantly so in as many as seven of those months. The second eight month post-event period evinced no pattern save for the first and sixth months when actual homicides were significantly less than the predicted number of homicides. Most interestingly, the differences between actual and expected homicides during the two months immediately prior to the resumption of executions were significantly positive while in the first month after the resumption the difference was significantly negative, results that are consistent with the deterrence hypothesis.

    Using the most conservative variant of our model, the actual number of homicides exceeded the predicted number by 90 over the 21 months of the two post-event periods. During the first post-event period the actual number of homicides exceeded the predicted number by 150 while the actual number of homicides is 60 fewer than predicted in the second post-event period.

    Our evidence suggests that as a result of the unofficial moratorium on executions during most of 1996 and early 1997, Texas experienced a net increase in the number of homicides over what would have been expected had no such moratorium been in place. During the interim, there were 40 executions or three more per year than during the "normal" 1993-1995 period. The execution hiatus, therefore, appears to have spared few, if any, condemned prisoners while the citizens of Texas experienced a net 90 additional innocent lives lost to homicide. Politicians contemplating moratoriums may wish to consider the possibility that a seemingly innocuous moratorium on executions could very well come at a heavy cost.

    Roberto Marchesini, Professor of Finance
    contact [email protected]

    Dale Cloninger, Professor, Finance and Economics
    contact [email protected]

    The School of Business and Public Administration
    University of Houston-Clear Lake
    Houston, Texas

  • DakotaRed
    DakotaRed

    Logical

    The Americans have already executed thousands of people recently, the majority of them innocent, and you can be sure it will stretch to billions if they continue the way they are going.

    Have you any documentation for this ludicrous claim? Thousands? The majority innocent? We will stretch it to billions?

    If you can't do the time, don't do the crime! In this case, would you prefer that he be given probation and kill again? Maybe spend the rest of his life in a country club environment with the possibility of escape and murdering again?

    It is sad when someone does get the death penalty, but he committed the crimes 17 years ago and has been living since. What solace does the victims family get? He pays for nothing, gets proper meals and medical attention, but what does the vicitms family get? Nothing!

    If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

  • expatbrit
    expatbrit

    I don't agree personally with the death penalty, but that is not really relevant.

    The only relevant factor for me is that he went to a foreign country and committed crimes there. Therefore he must accept the punishment that is the penalty for those crimes in that country.

    The fact that he's not American doesn't make a difference to that.

    Expatbrit

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    I voted and then got a view at the poll so far. Here it is:

    The death penalty: Is it ever legitimate?

    Yes
    53.45%

    No
    46.55%

    15273 Votes Cast

    Results are indicative and may not reflect public opinion

    Englishman.

  • dungbeetle
    dungbeetle

    To those who insist on propagating the 'death penalty doesn't deter crime'"theory" that is practically a RELIGION now..(based mostly on faith):

    Ted Bundy is never going to hurt anyone ever again.

    END OF DISCUSSION!!!!

    In 1975 a crack team of publishers was sentenced to death by a judicial commiteee. They promptly escaped from the cult and now live life on the run. If you have a problem ... and if you can find them ... maybe you can contact the A--postate Team"

  • logical
    logical

    I was referring to bombings in Iraq, Afganistan, Bosnia, etc etc and there are many more to come no doubt. How many innocent have been slaughtered by the bloodthirsty American, AND western forces?

    These murderers inject murderers with one hand while signing orders to bomb civillian targets in countries with their other hand.

    See my point? This guy admitted he is in the wrong, fair enough, the US government can do no wrong in their eyes, or the eyes of their little toy people, ie the American public.

  • LB
    LB

    Logical that is so narrow minded it's laughable. The terrorists came here and murdered thousands of innocents. The governments of those nations you mentioned harbored these murderers and even provided them with training facilities. Give me a break. That is reason enough for war. Are innocents dying? Of course they are. Are the majority of the ones killed innocents. Of course not. Where do you come up with this crap?

    Bloodthirsty americans? Look at your own history my friend. Nothing but nothing to be proud of.

    But the good news is the Hawaiians ate Cpt. Cook.


    Never Squat With Yer Spurs On

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    Logical:
    Who did Iraq invade? Remember?
    What ethnic group was being cleansed in Bosnia? Remember?
    What terrorist groups are hiding in Afghanistan? And how many men woman and children (from other nations too)did they kill on 9-11? Remember? How has liberating this nation from the Taliban helped women and children?

    Does NATO just include “western” nations? And, what other UN forces were involved in each country you cited besides “Western” nations?

    Bloodthirsty?

  • 144thousand_and_one
    144thousand_and_one

    Thi Chi,

    What's the relevance of the quote you posted in response to my post? It failed to address any of the points I made, but did waste space on Simon's board.

    Two wrongs don't make a right. Killing is wrong, whether done by a criminal or the State. The State executioner is no better morally than those he dispatches.

    BTW, the quotes are boring. I could also fill this board with information quoted from anti-death penalty sites, but why bother? It's boring to read, and isn't going to change anyone's opinion.

  • logical
    logical

    look at my own history? as far as i can remember ive committed no murders. If you mean history of Britain, well is it any wonder the US is like it is, considering it was British who had control of it for a long period. Your country is just a mutated larger version of Britain.

    ThiChi I cant believe you bought the propaganda.

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