God Changing Chosen Peoples

by eyes_opened 83 Replies latest jw friends

  • larc
    larc

    Logical,

    You tell Ianao that he may understand some, but he doesn't undertand the truth. That is an assertion on your part with no proof. I could say the same about you. You could say the same about me. So what! It bothers me when people wrap themselves in "the truth". First of all, having absolute truth is unattainable, which has been proven over and over again. You or MDS may have some truth, but you certainly don't have anything close to all of it. I think that telling others that they lack faith or they are like the Pharasees is just a way to glorify yourself and demean others. Of course, I am insincere when I ask MDS for clarifation. Why? Because he says I am, and that must prove it.

  • logical
    logical

    larc:

    Me and ianao were just in chat, as you know, and he will understand what I mean.

    >>> http://www.geocities.com/logical_7/index.html

  • larc
    larc

    Logical,

    On page two of this thread I posed some questions to you. Any reply?

  • logical
    logical

    larc

    Please be patient, im on the case OK?

    >>> http://www.geocities.com/logical_7/index.html

  • bjc2012
    bjc2012

    Hi Larc,

    What would cause you to believe that Jehovah would have the Bible written and just leave mankind in a quandary as to what He wants us to learn from it? It was written by His people, for His people. Jesus certainly spoke in parables to the general Jewish populace and most of them did not understand what he was saying. And most were content with this. However, a few of them were intensely interested and questioned him privately. We, as God's people, still to this day, do not understand these words and I suppose many have concluded that they are not understandable. That is simply not true. Jehovah does not reveal information to humans until it is His time and then it's only at a time when it would be most valuable to them. Yes we have arrived at that 'appointed time'.

    Since we have never heard God's word explained correctly, other than what Jesus chose to explain to his disciples and this explanation applied to them in their day, a true explanation today would seem to sound odd or strange to our ears. But we needn't turn it down. We should be like the Beroeans, "carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so." And they were checking behind an inspired individual, Paul. So would it be so bad to listen and then examine the Scriptures?

    Isaiah 54:11-14 states: "O woman afflicted, tempest-tossed, uncomforted, here I am laying with hard mortar your stones, and I will lay your foundation with sapphires. And I will make your battlements of rubies and your gates of fiery glowing stones, and all your boundaries of delightsome stones. And all your sons will be persons taught by Jehovah, and the peace of your sons will be abundant. You will prove to be firmly established in righteousness itself. You will be far away from oppression-for you will fear none- and from anything terrifying, for it will not come near you." Jehovah promises his people that He will teach them which means that they will understand the Bible in its entirety. Otherwise how would He ever be able to consider them to be righteous. They will need to have absolute truth. Isaiah 55:1-3 contains the invitation to "listen intently" to Jehovah. All truth will be revealed!

    bjc

  • larc
    larc

    bjc,

    Well, MDS presents himself as someone who can explain it to us. However, he doesn't explain what is going to happen in 2001, or why 1931 is the start of a 70 year special period. You really can't "search the scriptures" as you suggest and get answers to these questions. Also, MDS has three groups now, the FDS, the Healing Staff of about 200 million, and the one third of the JWs who repent after being trampled for 42 months. Why does it take 200 million to "cure" 2 million JWs? After they are cured, the JWs are going to rule over billions, according to MDS. Who are these billions anyway. Also, who is this Healing Staff?

    Another question for MDS,

    Under the subject of "Do we need a faithful and descreet slave", you said that people should keep going to the Kingdom Hall. (1-12-01 @ 1:41) Two days later, you said you didn't. (1-14-01 @ 3:09) Isn't this a contradiction?

  • larc
    larc

    bjc,

    Who or what does Isaih 49:1-6 apply to?

  • ianao
    ianao

    logical:

    I sure dont recall saying that. If I did, then fair enough, but I am 99.99999% convinced I didnt.

    To everyone reading this thread, I humbly apologize for giving logical undue "credit" for something he did not say. Logical, I am sorry I mis-represented you.

    Larc, I am sorry I mis-quoted you, too. (Hadn't had dinner yet. Water on the brain)

  • larc
    larc

    bjc,

    What does that scripture about this woman and her kids have to with anything. It's real pretty and I'm glad that Jehovah taught her kids real good stuff, but what does that have to do with you and me? Oh yes, the woman means something, and the kids mean something 2500 years after it was written. Cut me a break!

  • logical
    logical

    larc:

    Is it any wonder, that you cannot discern the answers to the questions you have asked? They are on this forum. But, you're fixed on "proving" MDS wrong - are you AFRAID of the truth?

    Open your eyes.

    >>> http://www.geocities.com/logical_7/index.html

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