SHUNNING- Oregonian Article-HUGE! (page 7)

mindfield

I'm not attacking, although Yadirf will scream otherwise. I'm pointing out his numerous fallacious posts.

Once again the loosely informed journalist tries to mentally grasp the shifting world of what the WTBTS is all about. Although the writer gives it a go, their emotional and sensationalist diatribe falls short of truly understanding the twisted and nebulous Theocratic ‘doublespeak’ that wraps the corporate object from outsiders prying eyes like some brain numbing protective shield.

For example, although the following quotes technically resemble the religious idealism as taught by the WTBTS Corporate elite, the journalists words completely miss the nuance of a deeper and arguably sinister understanding the rank and file Jehovah’s Witness has of these statements:

They (Jehovah’s Witnesses) believe in Armaggedon: The world will end, the wicked will die, and God will create a paradise on Earth for the righteous. The name refers to members' watchful return of Jehovah, or God.

The Bible is their bedrock. Witnesses live their lives in strict accordance to its teachings and follow a rigid moral code. Stealing, drinking, smoking, premarital sex -- all are forbidden.

Those who’ve once lived and believed as Jehovah’s Witnesses but who are now sufficiently quarantined from affecting the current crop of Jehovah’s Witnesses that remain, can quickly recognize the above apparently innocuous doublespeak; hidden definition and application, that means either absolutely nothing or completely different things to anyone, unless you have been taught and lived as a Jehovah’s Witness.

Current Jehovah’s Witnesses in ‘good standing’ or otherwise, who’ve trained their conscience to disconnect and mastered the art of yielding Theocratic Corporate ‘doublespeak’, will easily, mentally and argumentatively deflect troublesome information the journalist attempts to reveal to the undiscerning reader who most likely makes up the majority of readership.

In the case of the journalists article in question, regardless of how serious the nature of a subject that affects the lives of a few million adherents and not always in a good way, the article still misses hitting the mark of explaining the vision of a New York corporation that has usurped a lucrative yet complex paradox of having to market millions of dollars worth of ‘religious’ Tracts each month while maintaining a ‘smoke-screen’ of corporate anonymity for its own sake.

Smoldering Wick

SW, Girl, I am sitting here in tears right now. After all these years knowing you, I still feel the pain you have inside.
I truely wish I were right there beside you to give you the biggest hug you ever had. I know you need one from someone who loves you for the person you are, and I do, I really do.
Shari

Shari, Thank You! I love you too! If only every JW who has been Disfellowshipped, Shunned, thrown away by people they thought "loved" them could feel that hug too....maybe life wouldn't feel so dark.

We as EX-Witnesses need to start practicing unconditional love....even if it was never shown to us.

...maybe we can have some small part in saving a life from suicide.

dedalus

The Bible is their bedrock. Witnesses live their lives in strict accordance to its teachings and follow a rigid moral code. Stealing, drinking, smoking, premarital sex -- all are forbidden.

Wrong on the drinking. It's not forbidden. Witnesses drink as much as everyone else (perhaps more, as some have made the argument).

I've yet to read a newspaper article in which the reporter got it right.

Dedalus

Smoldering Wick

I received an email from Wendy!!
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Subj: Re: THANK YOU SOOO MUCH!!!
Date: 3/21/2002 4:37:43 PM Central Standard Time
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent from the Internet (Details)

Thanks for writing and listing the web site discussion. Many thanks.

new boy

To Flip----------------Great post, you too should e-mail Wendy Lawton she really is trying to understand this whole thing. Keith Casarona

JT

Friday says:

"I suppose that you're writing them for my benefit too."

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Not really, I write them so that others esp NONJW can see what the WT actually says on a matter and how a JW must try to explain it so that it doesn't look Goofy like it oftentimes does

The way I see it any JW who comes to this site and has access to all the info on the WT and still wants to support them, in my view is sad.

I only wish that you would realize that by you exercising your right to be here that according to YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM you are disobeying the mouthpc of god himself

to me any jw that hangs out on sites like this are already on their way out of the org-

the level or point where you are right now is where i along with so many others were at

so i believe that the natural process of time will do one of two things

1. cause you turn yourself into the elders for according to your belief system by you merely being here is an indication of you being spiritually weak and you need help, you will get on your knees and ask Jehovah to forgive you for hanging out in a Porno shop according to his FDS.

or

2. You will accept the fact that wt ain't what it is claiming and move on with your life in a postive way instead of WAITING FOR THE WT VERSION OF THE END

A BUT HEY IT'S YOUR CHOICE

JAMES
ps

JUST remember this quote Friday for according to your belief system YOU ARE NOT SPIRITUALLY MATURE:

Today's Watchtower lesson instructs Witnesses not to think for themselves when it comes to Bible understanding:
Augest 1, 2001, p. 14, par. 8:

First, since "oneness" is to be observed, a mature Christian must be in unity and full harmony with fellow believers as far as faith and knowledge are concerned. He does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or harbor private ideas when it comes to Bible understanding. Rater, he has complete confidence in the truth as it is revealed by Jehovah God through his Son, Jesus Christ, and "the faithful and discreet slave." By regularly taking in the spiritual food provided "at the proper time" -- through Christian publications, meetings, assemblies, and conventions -- we can be sure that we maintain "oneness" with fellow Christians in faith and knowledge. -- Matthew 24:45.

JT

DEDABLUS

SAYS:

Wrong on the drinking. It's not forbidden. Witnesses drink as much as everyone else (perhaps more, as some have made the argument

i CAUGHT that point as well, yep they never seem to get it right many times

Yerusalyim

A fairly well balanced story that had a few facts wrong, for instance they stated,

The Bible is their bedrock. Witnesses live their lives in strict accordance to its teachings and follow a rigid moral code. Stealing, drinking, smoking, premarital sex -- all are forbidden.

I didn't know drinking was forbidden to Witnesses. Don't tell Judge Rutherford or most Elders that. Also, a balanced statement would be that Witnesses live their lives in strict accordance with the Governing Bodies interpretation of the teachings of the bible. But, I guess I'm just too picky.

YERUSALYIM
"Vanity! It's my favorite sin!"
[Al Pacino as Satan, in "DEVIL'S ADVOCATE"]

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