TEC Documentary hypothesis

by mP 302 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • mP
    mP

    TEC:

    Can't teach people what they are unwilling to learn. No matter how many laws one imposes upon them.

    But it was not God who pandered. Do not forget that Moses gave laws due to the hard-heartedness of the people; and that the lying pen of the scribes handled the law falsely.

    So where is the new law, where does Jesus say forget Moses, here are the completely new replacement laws.

    mp:

    More excuses. God doesnt try and ban rape because its too hard to ban rape. What utter garbage, you should be shamed of yourself.

    TEC:

    You have missed the point entirely. There is no new law. (other than when Christ gave a new command... that to love one another as he loves us... nothing else is needed, because love does not harm others; love serves, forgives, shows mercy, does not judge, always hopes, it does not steal or lie or condemn)

    MP:

    So you admit there is no new law that replaces the Torah. Given that Jesus didnt mention idols in that same passage can be worship idols ? If we ban idols that means we acknowledge the law of mOses is still applicable.

    TEC:

    (he) love serves,

    mP: And how does he serve anybody today ? TEC:

    (he) forgives,

    mP: He forgives me for a crime i ddint commit ? TEC:

    shows mercy, does not judge, always hopes, it does not steal or lie or condemn)

    mP: I guess its good to know Armageddon is a free ice cream day and not a mass judging where people by the millions or billions get destroyed. What utter garbage. More wishful nonsense from you that turns out to be completely wrong or at best a lie.

  • tec
    tec

    Imp retty sure you know that there are multiple laws about this in the Bible. I cant give you a scripture of someone getting killed but i will give hte link for others who might be interested.

    Oh no. I did not ask for the law. I asked where someone had been "punished and condemned for not having their beards cut right". (your words)

    Again funny God can mention laws for this but cant figure out rape laws might be good. Talk about priorities. Imagine your government didnt ban rape but had laws about sideburns and beards, there would be outraged and they would be labelled terrible things, and right

    There are punishments laid out for rape. It WAS a crime. You continue to ignore this.

    More excuses. God doesnt try and ban rape because its too hard to ban rape. What utter garbage, you should be shamed of yourself.

    You see only what you want to see. Rape is a crime, else it would not have had a punishment attached to it.

    Out of curiosity, have you ever asked a rabbi if rape was not considered a crime?

    So you admit there is no new law that replaces the Torah

    Admit? I never claimed otherwise.

    Christ is who we are to listen to and follow. Christ taught love, faith, forgiveness, mercy.

    Given that Jesus didnt mention idols in that same passage can be worship idols ? If we ban idols that means we acknowledge the law of mOses is still applicable.

    You can do whatever you want to do. It is called free will. Just don't complain about the results you get from your 'idols'.

    If you are following Christ though... the truth and the life... you will not have idols, because He did not have idols. He loved and worshipped only His Father. He also taught that one could not serve two masters.

    TEC:
    (he) love serves,
    mP:
    And how does he serve anybody today ?
    TEC:
    (he) forgives,
    mP:
    He forgives me for a crime i ddint commit ?
    Why are you adding a (he) to my words? I was speaking of what love does... (what love comples us to do, to be precise... IF... we have love within us)
    TEC:
    shows mercy, does not judge, always hopes, it does not steal or lie or condemn)
    Again... love does these things.
    mP:
    I guess its good to know Armageddon is a free ice cream day and not a mass judging where people by the millions or billions get destroyed.
    Well, I don't know about the free ice cream... but armageddon serves to protect against gog and magog, who are riding out to destroy the people in the camp that God loves. Fire comes down from heaven and consumes them... to stop them from destroying a peaceful people. (revelation 20:8-9)
    What utter garbage. More wishful nonsense from you that turns out to be completely wrong or at best a lie.
    Don't you mean turns out to be a lie, or at best, wrong? You know, I haven't gone around insulting you. You have done so with me, many times, on this and other threads. Even comparing me to being like a muslim who cries and such if people are critical of Mohammad. I am here, discussing with you. I'm not cursing you, calling down evil, trading insults (despite your many toward me and a man you know nothing about). But YOU are not discussing. You are insulting and attacking and judging. You might want to think about that before you continue throwing your stones at others.

  • Pterist
    Pterist

    It's called Ad Hominem fallacy. ( as you know )

    Shalom Tammy,

  • mP
    mP

    PTerist

    ***Just because the temple or Jerusalem was destroyed doesnt remove or cancel a law***

    When a contract is broken, there are consequences and liabilities, just like your mortgage, same here. 70 AD is proof as Israel suffers the consequences specified in the contract. The Mosiac Law was ended, history has proven it.

    mP:

    I already addressed this when i mentioned Babylon destroying jerusalem.

    PT:

    Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’ [c] ”

    mP:
    Where does it say in that scripture from Matthew that the law of Moses was cancelled ? It only says the temple is going to be destroyed, no comment on whether moses law is null and void or antying.

    YOur just making stuff up.

  • mP
    mP

    PT:

    The mosaic law was ended, and there will be no official temple sacrificial cults setup in the future either in Jerusalem, like was promised after the 70 years punishment under Babylon.

    mP:

    There was no temple when the jews were in Babylon for 70 years but they still followed the law. I guess they followed the law for no reason for 70 years. They also followed the law under moses when there was no temple for a few hundreds years until Solomon built the first temple. It would seem your connection is at best non existant for hundreds of years, just like your scripture to show.

    YOu claim the temple is the contract, but the law exists even when theres no temple. Very strange.

  • Pterist
    Pterist

    'mP *** I already addressed this when i mentioned Babylon destroying jerusalem.***

    And I have have already addressed your 70 year analogy, it's now over 2000 years sunshine, where is the Mosaic Law enforced ? Its NOT.. its ended !

  • mP
    mP

    TEC:

    Why are you adding a (he) to my words? I was speaking of what love does... (what love comples us to do, to be precise... IF... we have love within us)

    mP:

    I had to add (he) to make the words mean something, i should have added (Jesus). i was trying to quote the feel of your message. I didnt misrepresent you did i ?

  • Pterist
    Pterist

    mP*** YOu claim the temple is the contract,***

    And where do I say this exactly,???..... talking about making stuff up, really !

  • mP
    mP

    TEC:

    shows mercy, does not judge, always hopes, it does not steal or lie or condemn)
    MP: How can you say Jesus does not judge and then we have Armageddon where he is the leader ? Surely the first statement is a lie or wrong.
    I didnt insult you, i was telling the truth.
    Cant you see how wrong your original statement is ? Jesus doesnt judge but he coming on Armageddon to judge and kill the bad ?
  • tec
    tec
    It's called Ad Hominem fallacy. ( as you know )

    Shalom Tammy,

    Yes, and thank you.

    Shalom.

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