TEC Documentary hypothesis

by mP 302 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • tec
    tec

    Again once more you divert attention. YOu coudlnt answer questions like this in court, you would be in contempt if you proceeded liek this

    The written words do not support the conclusions you have drawn, mP. You would not get a conviction in court on the evidence that you have presented in this thread. Christ does not say the law of Moses will never end. He never says the law of Moses is perfect. He corrects things from that law and gives the reason that law was given to begin with (hard-heartedness of the people). He explains that all the law and the prophets stem from the law of love (of God and neighbor as oneself) He shows that mercy is the more important matter of the law (so that he did not convict the adulteress... but rather forgave and set her free).

    The law is a tutor leading to Christ. Its purpose is accomplished (fulfilled) when one comes to Christ, and puts faith in Him. Not in the law that does not save... but in Christ who is the life and truth, and who does save.

    Peace,

    tammy

  • tec
    tec

    The covenant made with Moses had to do with the law. The new covenant with Christ is based on faith in Him. And yes, Christ does speak to a new covenant:

    In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you." Luke 22:20

    (a new covenant is also prophecized about in the OT... "The time is coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah." Jeremiah 31:31)

    Peace, tammy

  • EntirelyPossible
    EntirelyPossible

    The law is a tutor leading to Christ. Its purpose is accomplished (fulfilled) when one comes to Christ, and puts faith in Him. Not in the law that does not save... but in Christ who is the life and truth, and who does save.

    Where does the Bible say that? What, then, was the purpose of non-life saving law for thousands of years? Should people who aren't foollowers of Christ still follow the Law, then?

  • still thinking
    still thinking

    What, then, was the purpose of non-life saving law for thousands of years? ..EP

    Trial run maybe? An experiment? So that we could have a book to refer back to, to show us how NOT to do things? LOL

  • mP
    mP

    MP: A fine just adds to the insult of the situation and shows that God thinks poor girls can be bought and sold like commodoties

    TEC: It shows the thought of the men and of the times more than it does of God. Remember how Moses gave the law on divorce, that was NOT the truth from God. It was an allowance, because the people would do no better. Same with thi

    MP:
    Amazing God can punish ad condemn people for not having their beards cut right becaue tahts so important and yet he cant tell them rape is wrong. Whtehre the Jews might or would all follow the law is irrelevant, GOd is supposed to set the standard not pander to the whims of the barstards in the masses. What a piss poor excuse for a sovereign.

  • mP
    mP

    What, then, was the purpose of non-life saving law for thousands of years? ..EP

    ST:

    Trial run maybe? An experiment? So that we could have a book to refer back to, to show us how NOT to do things? LOL

    mP:

    Its sad but true, how could God associate or endorse such a pathetic set of laws. No vision, or love in that.

  • mP
    mP

    MP: Again once more you divert attention. YOu coudlnt answer questions like this in court, you would be in contempt if you proceeded liek this

    TEC:

    The written words do not support the conclusions you have drawn, mP.

    mP:
    Im sorry without a clear statement from Jesus that the law is over and here is the replacement, the status quo remains. Thats how law works, the old remains until its repealed or replaced and so on. Its quite clear as i previously stated that Jesus never gave a complete law anywhere. The love thy neighbour and love god thing is a summary of the old OT. Im sure you will agree that xians shouldnt worship idols and jesus never said that because the OT was still effect and those laws still applied. The portion he updated was replacing the passover feast with his own bread and biscuits memorial thing. Again no big update.

    Your conclusion that Jesus finished the law is completely broken, on multiple counts. You have never given an example of a replacement.

    So where is the new law, where does Jesus say forget Moses, here are the completely new replacement laws.

    Either way anyone who cant see a fault in the law of Moses and does not think it needs changing is an idiot.

  • mP
    mP

    TEC:

    The law is a tutor leading to Christ. I

    mP:

    Where does the BIble say that ? What in the word does that mean ? This is another example of complete nonsense that amoutns to lots of words that doesnt mean anything and is not found even remotely in the Bible.

    Its amazing how literal you read some text when its to your advantage, but in other cases you stretch the words so far its a blantant lie. I must apologise Jesus did not say exactly "The law is perfect", i thought he did and i couldnt find a sciprutre. Im big enough to admit that the text i found where he says GOd is perfect and the inferance that since god wrote the law of Moses it too must be perfect surely amounts to the same thing. Yet you didnt accept that, but you introduce nonsense like my quote above in this post.

  • mP
    mP

    TEC:

    In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you." Luke 22:20

    mP:

    And where is the replacement law ? Jesus is only replacing the passover with his supper memorial thing. Nothing else is mentioned here or anywhere. Where is Jesus new law about pedophilia, rape or slavery ? What about equality for women, can they be priests or what ?

  • Pterist
    Pterist

    ***Your conclusion that Jesus finished the law is completely broken, on multiple counts. You have never given an example of a replacement.****

    The Mosaic law covenant was a bilateral contract between God and the nation of Israel. The nation of Israel broke the coventant. The proof is in history, the temple was destroyed, along with Jerusalem and the sacrificial cult....no scriptures necessary it's transparent in history. 70AD

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