After the cult how many reject faith in anything? (page 2)

tootired2care

Perhaps that is some force or being in the cosmos that started everything, but I reject faith in the idea of some personal god who cares, and who has a plan for mankind. Firstly there is no evidence, and the evil that has been allowed is too much to dismiss. Additionaly, just looking at all of the conflicting ideas out there, about who god is, or what he wants, it shows that he is the most inept communicator or more likely that he doesn't exist. If you look at the randomness and cruelty that is built into nature, extinction of species etc. you start to see all of the religious fairy tales for what they really are.

This video below shows groups of chimpanzees hunting each other down for territory and food, no help from man here, just nature...watch this and then come and talk to me about a loving god who created everything and makes an exception to love our species alone. It doesn't make any sense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7XuXi3mqYM

Some would argue if you just listen to Jesus he will guide you, how exactly does that work for the child above? If some all powerful all knowing , loving god did exist he would do better.

TheClarinetist

After I left the Lie, I went and systematically looked for evidence that there was more out there and couldn't find any that didn't have a simpler answer (including a rather in-depth and ongoing study of evolution, which was a big step for me). I'm engaged to a pagan, participate in their ceremonies, and am open to their beliefs, but I haven't witnessed anything supernatural, despite much searching. After my experience with the Watchtower, I distrust faith without evidence on principle.

JeffJ

Most everything you do requires faith, whether it is called by that name, a theory, truth or just a guess. You go deep enough and it always requires faith.

You can't possibly know that God exists, but some have faith he does.

You can't possibly know that the universe has been expanding and contracting for untold trillions of years, but some have faith it has.

You can't possibly know your tire will not blow out on your home from work but we all have faith it will not.

All we can do here is keep our personal faith in whatever we choose to believe and try to help people recover from a destructive cult. It is not up to us to replace their truth with a new one.

Witness My Fury

Psychic gifts = wishful thinking....

return of parakeet

I don't have faith, but I have hope.

Seraphim23

No wishful thinking my end Witness My Fury

jgnat

I think every exiting Jehovah's Witness is better off spending some time thinking deeply about what they really believe, what is true. That internal grounding is a prevention against charlatanism of all sorts. I think it is natural that an ex-JW be suspicious of institutions. I mean, wouldn't you feel like a chump if you surrendered over your will, your being, to another organization?

I don't like the modern use of faith, which is treated as blind acceptance. One is expected to "believe" all sorts of whoppers, such as a world-wide flood, a literal Eden, and so on.

I a prefer a faith as "evidence of things not seen". That is, knowing there is no proof, to live as if I were guided by a benevolent God.

trebor

To echo Simon's sentiments, once using a similar logic and reasoning along with research to discover the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses/Watchtower Society to be a fraud, it would be a matter of intellectual dishonesty and a lie to myself to not applying the same logic and reasoning/research techniques towards Christian religions.

Ironically, to partially quote Daniel 5:27..."You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting."

Jehovah's Witnesses (IMHO) are more dangerous in the emotional, mental, and relationship damage department than Christian religions, but all are found wanting.

cantleave

You can't possibly know that the universe has been expanding and contracting for untold trillions of years, but some have faith it has.

Now THAT would take faith, since the universe is only 13.8 BILLION years old

xchange

JeffJ

Most everything you do requires faith, whether it is called by that name, a theory, truth or just a guess. You go deep enough and it always requires faith.

No. Wrong. Very, very wrong. How do you even go 'deep enough' with yourself anyways?

After the cult how many reject faith in anything?

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