British zone visit from David Splane - a report from the special meeting in Glasgow

by slimboyfat 82 Replies latest jw friends

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  Hummingbird001

  His next piece of advice, aimed at parents, was that they should not allow their children any leeway in avoiding the meetings. Some parents have the "misguided idea", he said, that their children should be allowed to choose for themselves whether to go to meetings, so that it can come "from the heart". That's all wrong, he said. Parents must force their children to come to the meeting and out on service whether they like it or not. Parents wouldn't allow their children not to eat, or teach them that going out to work is a choice they can accept or reject. It's the same with the meetings. Children must be taken to the meetings whether they like it or not.

  I think that is fabuous advice! Nothing will drive the young people out faster.
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  LostGeneration

  What a religion, so much to offer to the youth!
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  Designer Stubble

  Thanks for sharing. This is in fact great news. Every topic, whether a WT article or such talks have the agenda to deal with problems in the organization. Clearly more and more JW kids in Western countries are attending University, learn to think and leave. Further JWs find it difficult to explain the blood issue, with all the changes the policy has had. Also a lot of JW are dealing with psychological issues that should be getting attention. The organization is a house-of-cards. It may indeed be around during the next decades, but very few newbies come from the outside, as when a study starts, such persons quickly start googling. And with two-thirds of the kids leaving, not much growth there. The average age of Ministerial servants is 58 and elders 60. Young fresh blood is needed, but not coming in the numbers they want. Those who still attend I would ask: When was the last time you had a talk or WT study on developing the fruitage of the spirit or Imitating Christ. Ages ago!!! All that remains is CULT MIND CONTROL. Sad, but it is an organizatin that perhaps start out well, but has become corrupt and pharisee.
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  Quarterback

  I always enjoyed David's talks. I wished he was assigned to speak to the Canadian branch. David worked hard in the faith, and lived it. He was really gifted with a photographic memory, and if he had gone into this world to make a make his mark on society, he would of made lots of money. The English branch were priviledged to have him and his wife, Linda.
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  steve2

  It's always helpful to hear different impressions of Mr Splane. Thanks Quarterback for your more positive views - whatever we may individually think of this man, he's sure made an impression that lasts.
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  dozy

  He knows a brother who got a good job without going to university

  Well - we know a guy who got a free luxury apartment , free laundry , food , everything on expenses , free international travel without going to university - that would be David Splane , then....!

  Having heard a few of the GB speakers , while most of them came over as reasonably nice guys , they didn't come over as the "brightest tool in the box." I guess the pool for selecting GB members ( white caucasian english speaking men who claim to be anointed & are in good spiritual standing & completely devoted to the Org ) is pretty limited.
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  slimboyfat

  David Splane sincerely has no clue about the destructive influence his glib pieces of advice has on his worldwide followers. But does that make him less reprehensible just because he himself is delusional? I can't stop thinking about the red haired girl.
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  Magwitch

  When children sit at the KH they learn to tune out, day dream, fantasize - anything to pass the time. Unfortunately a lot of high school can be quite similar. However, once you enter a University the days of tuning out are over. You must learn to think and reason - make sense of things - figure things out on your own, as in doing your own research and study. Critical thinking skills naturally develop...and WHA LA...."The troof" all of a sudden becomes such a silly little insignificant religion that can be summed up in a few humorous sentences.

  I can absolutely see why this religion wants no part of higher learning. Their motto should be..." Keep them at home. Keep them at the KH. Keep them dumb."
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  steve2

  Keep them at home. Keep them at the KH. Keep them dumb."

  Well said magwitch. The only thing I'd add is, Get them out on field service - which, if the dearth of young ones door knocking is anything to by, must surely be one of the hardest, most frustrating tasks any JW parent has in "getting" their kids to do. It might help if Mom or Dad had their heart in field service...
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  Oubliette

  David Splane: So enjoy your old age, because you'll never have it again.

  Well that's true enough. When it's over, you're dead.

  You only live once; and when you're dead, it's for a very long time.