by Cold Steel 165 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
After all we don’t even know why or where it began, which is ironic
You are right that "why" isn't a scientific question. Is it even a sensible question? Is it not akin to asking why a triangle has three sides?
I don't like to think that death is the end either - it's an idea that takes a bit of getting used to. The alternative is an even less appealing idea.
You should be careful about asserting what science won't or can't know.
my sister told her daughter, when the goldfish died ........''he's gone to heaven ...'' ( non jw's)
Believe me I am careful about asserting what science won't or can't know coffy. Science is trying to get the ultimate theory that explains everything we see. This theory goes by the name of the `Unified field theory`. Science if it really can get to the point where it explains all things will, if they get to this goal of a theory of everything, also have complete predictive power, else there is something it doesn’t adequately explain. So if this is possible, the very theory that explains all things will also predict all free will and the fates of all, and if it were rolled back to the beginning of time this theory would even predict its own discovery. At this point such a theory is greater than all those who helped in its discovery, for it can do more than they can, and they can do nothing that it doesn’t permit in itself. Sounds like a God to me. So I think it is very reasonable to except the limits of science.
Believe me I am careful about asserting what science won't or can't know coffy.
Not really, you asserted that science will never explain consciousness. Have you read "Consciousness Explained" by Daniel Dennett or anything else that has been written recently by neuroscientists?
Its Cofty not coffy.
Unified field theory - Science if it really can get to the point where it explains all things will, if they get to this goal of a theory of everything, also have complete predictive power
That is not even wrong. What follows is just a train wreck.
Of course science has limitations, so what?
How many birds are in the air right now? Its a question that has an answer but it is one that can never be answered.
If you wish to defend supernatural assertions you should be prepared to deal with rational questions.
I’m glad I got you to admit that science has limits. You do realise what having a limit means?
You didn't "get" me to admit science has limitations - its bloody obvious. Science can't tell us whether Otis Redding wrote better music than Ben E King. That's a matter of subjective opinon.
What is consciousness and whether or not cockroaches survive death are not matters of opinion.
They are not matters of science either.
You better tell neuroscientists to find a new job then.
Well as I told you already I think science is not wrong.
It's worth considering, as some do in the area of quantum physics, that the soul and the personality are two different things. The brain, the thinking organ of the body, dies and so with it likely the personailty (that ego that must be right at all costs - lol), but the essence of being - the energy, life force or perhaps the soul if that's how you think, -- where that goes, if anywhere, is not understood. So possibilities, that we're likely not evolved enough to comprehend, exist. I reject religion. I can accept I don't know and I can still marvel at the beauty of this life.
Some devout atheists (similiar to many religious folk) cling blindly to the evidence of their senses, to the facts at hand, to ‘reasonableness’. These people refuse to believe the fantastic because it does not fit with their view of the world. Not much different IMO to religious folk that think they alone know the Truth. And they will fight to the end to assert they alone are right.
Yawn.
Dogma is dogma.
