The TOPIC which may never be discussed!

by Terry 43 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Terry

  Question: How does the leadership of Jehovah's Witnesses instruct its members to prepare for the eventual Elder Care of its members?

  Answer: IT PRETENDS it will never happen!

  Is this responsible leadership or some kind of cognitive dissonant malfeasance?

  It is deliberate social policy based on conscious FRAUD.

  Beginning in 1920 the Watchtower religion has deliberately misinformed its membership that they will not only never grow old, but, they will actuall never die!

  This LIE has had consequences!

  The most glaring consequence is that every single person who died since that message has REFUTED the lie!

  Jehovah's faithful Witness member in good standing ages, grows feeble, has no social provision for elder care and becomes an impoverished burden on his or her family!

  Illness and infirmity are real while the Watchtower promises are very false.

  This is the "invisible" Elephant in the room.

  It is a double tragedy.

  Why?

  Young members have been discouraged from Youth to avoid Higher Education. This makes them low wage earners. They are told they will not need to worry about growing old. So, their likely saving for elder care, buying insurance and investing in their own future is vanishingly small.

  The only Social Instrument for providing for actual human needs is ILLUSORY promises based on false hope.

  Jehovah's Witnesses are certain of only one sure thing: they grow old, sick and totally dependant on help that IS NOT PROVIDED by their own religious organization!

  So, the question must be asked simply out of humanity, consideration and fellow feeling: WHY ISN'T THERE ANY HELP?

  ANSWER: the Watchtower leaders DON'T GIVE A DAMN!

  John 13:35, "By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."

  The "identifying mark of true christianity" is a long long way from the doorway of any Kingdom Hall, indeed.
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  designs

  When I was an Elder I got in trouble (again) when I discussed how the Lutherans had set up Senior Living centers for their aged, actually anyone could live in their facilites and one of our aging Elders and his wife did move into one. The 'Lutheran Fund' is well respected and a profitable business model which made me doubly mad because the Wt. could have easily turned any of their now abandoned or sold Bethel homes into a nice senior living facility.
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  wha happened?

  I remember the shock when a CO and his wife told me that the WT should set up an old folks home for retired CO's. I couldn't understand why they would have people deicate 50+ years of their life, only to be kicked to the curb.

  Oh yea, it's a cult
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  Tater-T

  That's a fact Jack!!

  I was disscussing this with my sister, a while back... and she recalled how, Bro Thomas from our hall when were kids used to expound...

  putting money away for retirement is the most foolish thing a person can do...

  we both laughed
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  new hope and happiness

  they instruct its members to comfort the old with words like these.-

  " such happiness has to be a life time spent serving Jehover"

  " But i have nothing, i am nothing and now i can no longer walk,no brother or sister has visited me in weeks"

  " Dear Sister the Bro and Sisters miss you at the Kingdom Hall and your inheritence will soon be to live for ever on a patadise earth. Speaking of inheritence the reason i am here today is have you made a wil ?

  " i cant remember i am old my minds a mess"

  " but this home is yours, it was left to you by your non- believing husband, and it would be misplaced loyalty if you were to leave it to your unbelieving children when it could so benifit the worldwide work"

  Ok maybe i am cynical but i believe the society would have failed in its purpose if it simply gets alife time of free labour,to really succeed it needs your home. And in my congregation how many of the elderly left homes to the society. And the elders that helped with the paperwork.

  I marvel how easily the elders didthe societies will ....pathetic, cunning and dangerouse people.
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  piztjw

  That is one of the reasons I am never going to amount to anything in the eyes of the dubs. I spent my younger years WORKING (as a working cowboy) for an employer who paid good wages. I set aside savings, bought IRA's, and so forth for the time I may not be working. As a result, now at a relatively young age, while others who are loyal dubs have nothing and are still washing windows part time for minimum wage in their seventies, I am comfortably retired and living on the money I set aside through several decades of saving. Silly me! I could have been a burden living off the sweat of others labour instead of being self-reliant. Then I could have been a good dub instead of a piztjw!
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  Giordano

  What's Ironic is that after a life time of the Society mandating that JW's avoid other religious groups on penalty of being DF many aged JW's spend their last years in the care and keeping of those very same religion's they were told to stay away from.

  My mother lived in a Catholic Assisted living facility which was one of the nicest in her area.

  The Mormon's have 18 quality retirement facilities just in the greater Salt lake City area. Which by the way average $3125 per month. But since the Mormons educated themselves many can now afford the cost in their old age.

  How many does the WTBTS have available in the greater NYC area......none. Maybe a handful of rooms or small apartments for the long serving Bethel family.
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  Terry

  The lifetime of a Jehovah's Witness is bled dry only to rot in the sun like a gutted fish skeleton at the end.

  Your "value" is moment to moment like stock on the stock market.

  As you age your stock goes down and, in the end, you are bankrupt.

  JW's are a lot like day laborers who are illegal aliens always looking over their shoulder.

  Such a lovely life and so secure, too! NOT!
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  Sayswho

  • It is deliberate social policy based on conscious FRAUD.

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  • Oh yea, it's a cult

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  These two statements are based on the evidence (and fruits) the WBST has produced...all anyone needs to do is read the literature and a simple review of their history.

  I was talking to an MS yesterday (about similar things) and his reasoning was Jeh always used imperfect men So i planted a few seeds---hope they grow and don't backfire on me.

  SW
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  Terry

  I was talking to an MS yesterday (about similar things) and his reasoning was Jeh always used imperfect men

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  Interesting to me how the idea of "imperfection" is a positive thing when applied to the Governing body, but, a negative thing when

  applied to everybody else.

  Matthew 5:48

  New International Version (NIV)

  48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.