by mouthy 480 Replies latest social current
Vi - I believe this will expose a lot of things - in a great many ways and yes, I also hope that Zimmerman sues as many people as he can and wins.
The latest fall out - the Miami Dade School Police Department scandal showing all the fraud in the school policing department and their policies - now under the microscope because of Martins records. sammieswife
How a Miami School Crime Cover-Up Policy Led to Trayvon Martin’s Death
Wow, just been reading up on this, lots of information starting to come out.
If true then it turns out that black kids were being treated differently but not how it's been claimed - they were let off crimes to doctor the stats. Great job - teach them no consequences for their actions. Look how that turned out !
It would explain the rash of burglaries in the area - don't even keep them in school ... gives them extra time to go rob !
Looks like we can skip the "what if" game people have been so fond of back a couple of places now then. If TM had been arrested as he probably should have been then he may not have been on the street that night to ruin someone elses life and may not have felt invincible and untouchable for his actions.
There is still a lot of propaganda to reverse but I believe many people once they learn the truth will be embarrassed of their opinions and the hysterical mourning for Trayvon Martin.
I don' think anyone will change their mind Simon.
People who dig in and ignore the facts of what is going on will keep doing so. They have created their image and kept to their cause regardless of the facts and will just continue to argue theory or thought as facts. I just watched that happen on a panel speaking on this case - all 3 black men - two of them argued on Zimmermans guilt based on their own opinions - the one kept stating the facts. The other two ignored and refused to accept the facts of the case because they chose to - the other kept stating the facts. It was a no win. As I said when the journalists present fiction as fact and people repeat it as fact, the fiction becomes their reality and not the facts.
- sammieswife
stolen jewelry and Marijuana? So he was a petty criminal?
How true are claims that Z has a history of violence. Just asking?
stolen jewelry and Marijuana? So he was a petty criminal?
Don't forget the burglary equipment and fights too plus the messages about him getting people drugs.
So, lots of burglaries in the area, he is caught with stolen goods and burglary equipment - as the prosecution kept telling people: "connect the dots, use your common sense" ...
Burglary, drug trafficking and assault aren't petty crimes.
GZ was a good guy trying to help his community which was sold down the river by the local police letting criminals go free, shafted by the media who manipulated evidence and spread propaganda, shafted by the racists using the incident for their own agenda and screwed by the politicians greedy for votes off the dumb electorate. Fortunately the justice system came through for him but he still has idiots all over the country still parroting their insidious lies.
I really feel for the guy.
Well, if you consider a burglary as a petty crime that's okay - the issue however is that it still IS a crime but since he was in the black youth protection scheme the Chief had drawn up, that crime couldn't be placed in the records where it should have been.
If it had been - instead of you asking if Zimmerman had a violent past - would you ask yourself if maybe Martin was looking in those windows to burgle the homes? Maybe not.
By the way, there is a small issue that you are overlooking here. If the burglary took place and the police took that evidence, which is the jewellery and didn't return it to the owners (because they would have had to report his robbery as a crime with the police criminal division) then I kind of think thats illegal as well. You know - hiding evidence relating to a crime..all that good stuff that I'm sure the personal insurance department is also probably interested in now.
As for Zimmerman. No, the judge declared those two little incidents which were by the way, recorded and read and discussed at the trial, as not relevant. The first with the 'cop' ..was dismissed entirely and never made it anywhere after all the facts came out. The second never went anywhere because it was a tit for tat argument apparently that again was never entered as a criminal issue on his record. So nope....nothing there..sammieswife
Oh and by the way I forgot to mention - the protection progam was specifically aimed at black youths because there were too many of them being captured in the police system - how long do you think it's going to take for any person of any other color that didn't get that special treatment to file a lawsuit? Given the litigous nature of the US - I'd say you probably have a whole whack of lawyers with their ads out now calling for victims. sammieswife
Oh to know where those stolen jewels he had were from ... imagine if they end up coming from one of the burglaries in that very neighbourhood?
I bet there are some frantic cover ups going on right now. They already tried to scrub TMs history clean but the truth always comes out eventually.
The whole thing is just tragic. Trying to find someone to blame for this tragic death... be that Zimmerman or TM, himself... is just a way that makes it easier for people to cope.
But this did not have to happen, and many factors played into it.
TM did not deserve to die. That doesn't mean that Zimmerman murdered him.
Sad. Just sad all the way around.
Peace,
tammy
Is GZ your cousin Simon? My goodness your putting your entire being on the line with this individual and your outright hate for TM is bordering on the maniacal. Yest you personally don't know either of them. When did possesion of a screw driver become an automatic burlary tool? This whole thread is becoming very unpleasant and developing lynch mob overtones... I'm getting the impression you probably wish you shot TM yourself...
Evil happens when good people do nothing.
It seems unfair that GZ has so many people against him, all stirred up by and repeating false reports and lies.
You would have me do nothing and allow people to use this site to spread more of those lies too?
Are people at the "you must be a racist if you don't worship Trayvon Martin" stage yet? You can't support GZ - there must be some hidden reason that you don't support TM?
From what I know, GZ seems like the kind of guy you'd want as a neighbour. TM seems like the kind of yob that you'd keep an eye on whenever he came into your neighbourhood.
