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Jeffro

Now he's just randomly copy-and-pasting things, some of which he's copied from me (including the timeline, which he's 'kindly' attributed to as "The most Chronological order embedded with historian, theologians, and archeologist is this"; however, he has also made some edits to the timeline without marking them as his changes), randomly interspersed with detail from other sources. Oh dear.

The New World Encyclopedia, which billythekid46 cites and quotes, is produced by the Unification Church, a new religious movement based in Korea, aka the 'Moonies'. The group is broadly considered to be a cult. Since Sun Kyung Moon was raised as a Presbyterian, it's unsurprising that the Moonie's beliefs share some similarities with other Adventist groups diverged from Protestantism.

billythekid46

Question Jeffro, where do you get your material from, I understand you’re stupidity for denying what you see. I hopeful you have gone through the world to get first hand understandings to write you’re on material you have stolen for years now.

People like Jeffro make a mockery of intelligent people, that’s why I knew he would disagree spoken like a true apostate. Like I said before, keep you keep your truth, and I will follow sensible people.

Yes everyone is a cult that can prove you wrong, except you being a perfect man as you have proven today. All bow to Jeffro son of Satan

billythekid46

Let’s face it Jeffro or whatever handle suits you. You got served, move on dude. You will always be a punk in denial. Get a life and perhaps in 30 to 40 years from now the big boys will let you play again. First you clearly denounce the teaching of Jw’s. Now Advents, Protestants, Universal Peace Federation you call Moonies when it’s a coalition. I mean keep your story of hatred strait. What other religions are cults and liars except yours. You have gone beyond being a hypocrite, buddy your brain dead. So what other lies are you going to tell the people that you can use certain information out of connivance to champion your cause, and yet use the same material to reject the claim of others?

New World Encyclopedia were funded by the generous support of UPF/IIFWP: UPF is an NGO in Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations We support and promote the work of the United Nations and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goals.

So the U.N. is a cult now. That makes most of your friends in these websites cults too.

Shame, I thought I was learning something new.

Badfish

Like I said before, keep you keep your truth, and I will follow sensible people.

Is this a reference to the Governing Body?

never a jw

"Your truth is your truth, and mine is mine"

Typical cultish response. History is probability. You guys can settle your differences by accepting the evidence. Compare the different scenarios and embrace the most probale one. The evidence says the Watchtower is very probably wrong and they know it. therefore they are liars.

Read Carl Olof Jonsson's "Gentile Times Reconsidered" and put the evidence he presents to the test. I did. He is right, the Watchtower is lying

never a jw

Hey Billy the kid.

Just be persistent. Don't leave. Don't stop debating. In time, just like many in here, you will become another apostate. That's the power of truth.

The U.N. is not a cult. However, it admits even cults as NGO's. Wait... it's at the tip of my tongue, Wat..ever. Watchery.... got it. Watchtower is the name of a cult that was as a U.N. NGO in the 90's.

billythekid46

Wow!!!!! Shunned and Chastised by Teach jgnat and the JWN, please stop acting like JW's give me your apostate love. At least I was challenged by DD with the old Doug Manson method of arguments. Please people get new material. The apostate writings of Raymond Franz,

, W.T. Stevenson and others are old, like Russell, and Rutherford.

I believe I mention that apostate Carl Olof Jonsson a day ago. Good story teller. He has impressed

many children with his lies. It's good to hear from his students. You people really need to read before commenting,

just like Jeffro who cant figure out who to hate now. I guess if the U.N. is a Cult, look in the mirror to see where they're

getting their contributions from. People smell what your shoveling. Enjoy your twisted morales.

Jeffro

billythekid46:

People like Jeffro make a mockery of intelligent people, that’s why I knew he would disagree spoken like a true apostate.

I have never been a member of the Unification Church, and by definition cannot be considered an 'apostate' for pointing out that they are broadly considered to be a cult.

Yes everyone is a cult that can prove you wrong, except you being a perfect man as you have proven today.

I didn't say the Moonies are a cult. I said they are broadly considered to be a cult. That is a plain statement of fact. Included among the sources considering it to be a cult include the books, Kingdom of the Cults and Mystics and Messiahs: Cults and New Religions in American History, as well as the governments of France and Germany.

All bow to Jeffro son of Satan

Idiot.

First you clearly denounce the teaching of Jw’s.

I have pointed out where JW doctrines are clearly wrong, even from the position of Bible-believing Christians.

Now Advents, Protestants

I have correctly pointed out the historical origins of JWs, and that chronology presented by those groups has been adapted by JWs. However, those groups do not say the same outlandish things about 607 that JWs do, and they don't say anything about 1914.

Universal Peace Federation you call Moonies when it’s a coalition.

I pointed out that the Unification Church is often called the Moonies. It's not some label I made up, or one that I habitually use. (I don't habitually talk about the group at all.)

I've seen no compelling evidence that the Unification Church can 'prove me wrong', and they don't make the same claims as JWs about 607 or 1914 anyway.

UPF is an NGO in Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations
So the U.N. is a cult now. That makes most of your friends in these websites cults too.

You clearly don't understand what an NGO is.

jgnat

Good morning billy. Is there any reason why you simply repeated yourself? I am not an apostate by any definition. Perhaps you could clarify why you think I am.

I have offered fresh, current authors. Any comments on those?

I am also not a professor or a teacher. I would have had to obtained a degree to claim those titles. I can call myself an instructor or facilitator.

Apognophos

I think you're wasting your time, Jeffro. It would be one thing if debating billy was helpful to any other onlookers, but his argumentation is incoherent. I don't think he's right in the head.

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