How exactly is God guiding the JWs?
jerome
The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and there may be hell to pay.
Bill Bowens Trail of Naivete
by Psychdigg 88 Replies latest jw friends
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larc
Psych,
Your tribal instincts must run pretty deep. Mine don't. I left the religion and never felt a need to join another religious tribe. I find rewards in other tribal groups, to use your terminology, groups that are far more rewarding and less damaging than yours.
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sf
"I hope Dateline gives the public a real picture that they see the real truth behind the ones coming to the door trying to recruit for the Watchtower Publishing God."
And in their neighborhood, across the street from where your kids play.
Just knowing that jws were congregating in the house across the street, leaves me very ON GUARD:
< http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=27476&site=3
You better believe it.
sKally
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dungbeetle
Hey fair is fair, pro - Watchterites:
If it is ture that parents are responsible for the molestation of their children:
Then it is true that the JW elders are responsible for the predators that were allowed to be IN those organizations.
Then this is what is going to happen: The names, addresses and phone numbers and email addresses are going to be collected and disseminated to the public at large.
Let the JW elders personally answer to the communities in which they live for the decisions they make that affect the welfare of tehir personal neighbors.
Waddya say to THAT pro-Watchtowers? HuuuuuHHHHHH?
Aw, it just ain't fair is it.
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Will Power
When you discredit a religion you are doing untold damage to the moral compass of its members.
Excuse me? I think it is THIS holy printing press religion that has discredited itself. They are the ones that print what they print and go on permanent record. I'm not talking about the fluff, the candy, or the bait. I do not know of any other religion that is on permanent record in their own literature that has done more untold damage to the moral compass of its [other religions] members. by BASHING every other faith on this earth. THAT IS HOW THEY TRY TO GET CONVERTS.
IS THAT THE 2ND BOOK GIVEN TO 'LOOKERS?"
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jerome
Why cant JWs simply just say that they dont believe what others theach and leave it at that?
Why must they not only disbelieve but fabricate stories which discredit all other religions?
These people go aroung door to door lying to anyone who actually knows what their up to and still want to claim the moral high ground.
Its sickening.
It would have been alright for them just to stick to commenting on the bible in their little bible study groups.
But that wasent enough. They wanted more and then took matters too far by claiming exclusiviety for themselves.
God dosent belong to a publishing company masquerading as a religion he belongs to everyone.
And all the time continue to scorn those who try to show them the right way. If a Christian out of concern for their well being trys to show them how they are worng they first decline and to add insult to injury they call them an agent of satan.(tm)
I would like to see the look on this guys face when he finds out thats all a sham.
When people try to help you dont brush them off and call them names.
All somebody is trying to do is correct a wayard fello human being, thats all. But because you are so indoctrinated that the world is shuch a bad place you cant see it any other way.
If you stay on this board you will not convince anyone that the WT is the truth but will only make yourself look like an idot.
What goes around comes around and all the finger pointiong that has been going around is coming right back at you.
jerome
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Will Power
Jerome
Here's one thing that they say to do AND do what they say each memorial when they deny the cup and pass it along.
1 Cor 10:21: “YOU cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons; YOU cannot be partaking of “the table of Jehovah” and the table of demons.”
So this cup, is it the demon cup or the Jehovah cup that they choose to not partake in? I'll bet some smart aleck will say it is an allegory. But the really high up guys can partake. Who is at whose table?
I know they call Jesus the Abaddon, is this one of the reasons? or is he called this only because he is king of the abyss?
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Simon
Psychdigg
As I see there are some flaws in your arguments / reasoning or lack of understanding of what the society claims:
Does the existence of sinners in an Earthly organization mean that God is not guiding it? Are you also naieve? Hopefully you can
But they have been telling everyone for years that they have more successful marriages and that it's proof that God is directing them. If they do, in fact, have a worse record with marriages and pedophiles than society in general then what would that make someone who still clung to the idea that they were directed by God? (Let the reader use discernment )
answer your own question. Half of Jehovah's Witness marriages end
up in divorce (from my experience of 70 witness weddings in the
last 40 years that I have attended). That's identical to society
in general. Marriage doesn't do too well in spiritual paradise.
Does that mean God is not guiding the organization? It is easy to
make erroneous causal connections.The fact is they are NOT directed by God ... in fact I am beginning to doubt if there is any intelligence directing them at all - perhaps the GB have reached some sort of collective senility?
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waiting
Religion serves a strong function in reminding people that they are MORE than animals. But the MORE part is simply a thin veneer over our evolutionary history.
Actually......no. A stable religion *could* do that - a nonstable religion - like Jim Jones, the Moonies, the Catholic Church during the Inquisitions, Protestants during the Salem witch hunts.....the WTBTS in their dealings with (as correctly stated) blood, and harboring child molestors - all nonstable religions can do massive harm to a group, and more significantly to individuals.
Btw, an education will do the same thing for many persons. A good education will do even more to stabilize that evolutionary veneer.
Teaching ourselves and our children the responsibility to volunteer to aid others, give of ourselves - all these things accomplish a moral good.
Religion can......but doesn't necessary do any of the above.
If you want to make a lot of money, start a religion. L. Ron Hubbard (paraphrased)
waiting
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one
"...I am beginning to doubt if there is any intelligence directing them..."
what about secular gov/political intelligence?