Restorting to threats like this just shows your true colours. If you respond to my posts, I will respond if I wish. If you want me to leave you alone then ignore all my posts. Simple
I aksed to be left alone and you just couldn't do it. My true color is the same as it's always been, asking you to leave me alone. Please note your apology, you clearly know you were in the wrong and always have been.
| Sent | 19 days ago |
|---|---|
| From | KateWild |
| To | Viviane |
| Title | This thread is not about me |
| Message | Viv, You are intelligent enough to make it appear that it's not about you. But I am intelligent enough to realise that it is about you and what you are going through. I apologise that I try and get you to open up, when you clearly want to keep your personal life personal. I know this can be antagonistic and I am truly sorry that I have clearly antagonised you, I should have known better. There is something that you need to understand about me though and what I find offensive, only then can we have mutual respect. When you use intellectual intimidation it antagonises me, so now that you know this I would appreciate you don't post things like "people turn their brains off" "you are ignorant""you are clueless", it does not encourage me to enter into a healthy debate, what it actually does is cause me to question the posters motives, and try and discern what stage of WT deprogramming they are at. After all this is a WT recovery site. However I understand that you find me impertinent to do this, maybe it's my ASD or something but I really want you to tell me more about you so I can get to know you better. I hope we can move passed this, every time we start a thread, it's about us whether we want it to be or not. Kate xx |
I don't know how else to say this...
| Sent | 19 days ago |
|---|---|
| From | Viviane |
| To | KateWild |
| Title | I don't know how else to say this... |
| Message | You don't know a damn thing about me. Stop pretending that you do. That is the issue. I realize that you think my posting style is rude. It's not. It's succinct and without tone intentionally so there will NOT be anything personal in it. If you are as intelligent as you claim, then you should know that reading tone into the written word such as email or posts is a bad bad idea. I would take your complaint seriously about intimidation except that you have done the same thing. I wrote the "turn your brain off" comment exactly once. If that offends, I apologize. I won't do it again. I never wrote that you are clueless, you must be thinking of someone else. I am not trying to intimidate anyone. If you have questions about my motives, just ask. Don't assume. It's quite rude. As far as threads turning into a discussion about us. I had never posted to you EVER until you starting talking about me personally on a thread by prologos. If you don't want threads to turn personal, then stop turning them personal. I didn't do that to anyone on my thread. You did that. Take care, Viv |
You said it fine
| Sent | 19 days ago |
|---|---|
| From | KateWild |
| To | Viviane |
| Title | You said it fine |
| Message | Viv, Thank you for apologising about that one term. I can understand your perspective about tone, but my opinion is that there is tone in everything we say whether we like it or not. You are very clever to hide it, but I still detect anger in some of your posts. You even said you could not be calm, and used capitals in your post. I am sorry you don't like me questioning your motives, I have asked you directly before and you refused to answer. So I am asking again privately and I will not betray you if you feel comfortable telling me. Why have you come to this site Viv? If you don't want to tell me, fair enough. But from your recent actions, entering into a PM convo with me, I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you are sincere and not here just to upset believers on purpose. When you first joined, I did think that your goal was to upset posters, but my view has changed. So if you don't want to answer me yet, I can accept this. I do want threads to be personal, I don't mind if someone has something constructive to say about me, I am here to heal, help and make electronic friends. You are right you did not make it personal I did, because that's why I am here to develop personal on-line relationships, if you don't want me to get personal with you then you will have to refrain from making comments about my posts, I have ASD and find it really difficult forming the boundaries between factual and personal. If you question my comment, I just want to know who I am talking to, that's my personality. I make things personal. I hope you understand and it doesn't cause a problem in the future. I have looked up other posters threads to determine their background, it's how I work. Kate xx |
Except...
| Sent | 19 days ago |
|---|---|
| From | Viviane |
| To | KateWild |
| Title | Except... |
| Message | You did make stuff up. You wrote that I was angry, you wrote things about my intention, my motive, etc. None of that was anything you knew and none of it was true. That's making stuff up, Kate. I'm very sorry that you have ASD, but you can't use that as a crutch for making stuff up about me and pretend it's OK. You're still doing it, you are taking what I wrote about getting you banned (which, BTW, was also something you assumed, not at all something I ever wrote) and now are turning it ALSO into something I never wrote. You're taking something you made up, which I refuted, and now are taking my refutation and turning that into something I never said. If you want to improve your communication skills, stop making stuff up. If something bothers you, ask if that was the intent. So far you have a 100% failure rate of trying to guess what extra stuff I meant. I don't mean anything other than exactly what I wrote. There is no extra stuff. |
I am sure we can get along just fine. I just ask that you read my words without assuming intent. If you have a question on intent or tone or motive, don't assume and post, just ask me.
| Sent | 19 days ago |
|---|---|
| From | KateWild |
| To | Viviane |
| Title | I am sure we can get along just fine. I just ask that you read my words without assuming intent. If you have a question on intent or tone or motive, don't assume and post, just ask me. |
| Message | I didn't make stuff up, it was not my intention. What you expect from me is not in my skill set yet, I would like to develop it but I can't read what you write the way you want me to just yet. I don't think you grasp how my ASD affects me. I would love to be able to do as you ask, and maybe one day I will have the social skills to do so, but socially I am like a child and just say what I see. If you say you don't care enough about me to get me banned, to me that means you don't care about me. To me with my social skills and disability it's one in the same. The way you communicate with me I will invariably make a mistake and you will be offended that I misunderstood you. So for us to get along fine you need to realise I won't always get it right, but I need you to know I am not making excuses I am working on improving my communication skills. Lets see how it goes from here on Take care Kate xx |
I just told you!
| Sent | 19 days ago |
|---|---|
| From | Viviane |
| To | KateWild |
| Title | I just told you! |
| Message | You wrote things about me and my intent that you were both wrong about and had no information on. How in the world is that NOT making stuff up? |
I just told you!
| Sent | 19 days ago |
|---|---|
| From | Viviane |
| To | KateWild |
| Title | I just told you! |
| Message | You wrote things about me and my intent that you were both wrong about and had no information on. How in the world is that NOT making stuff up? |
oops sorry my mistake ;)
| Sent | 19 days ago |
|---|---|
| From | KateWild |
| To | Viviane |
| Title | oops sorry my mistake ;) |
| Message | Okay fair enough you have a point. Friends? ;) xx |
We can be friends....
| Sent | 19 days ago |
|---|---|
| From | Viviane |
| To | KateWild |
| Title | We can be friends.... |
| Message | Just don't make assumptions about me... |
untitled
| Sent | 19 days ago |
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| From | KateWild |
| To | Viviane |
| Title | untitled |
| Message | Cool, glad we sorted that out xx |