That is the assurance that your work will only benefit the organization, not you personally. Thus, the organization is free to extort more out of you since you bear the cost while they reap the benefits. You only have a chance of salvation--according to this scripture. And that's from the anger of joke-hova itself about that it couldn't enslave the whole human race into damnation.
"Probably You Might be Saved" - Somewhere in Zephaniah As I Recall
by Perry 72 Replies latest watchtower bible
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Jon Preston
Hey perry? If the wages sin lays is death....meaning im a sinner and i die...once i die are my sins wiped?
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cofty
Teaching children that they are broken and need to be saved is mental and emotional abuse.
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sarahsmile
Maybe they are too busy preaching the Kingdom is already here and God set them up as the choosen people in the court of the kingdom. Kingdom Hall. The saved. They must be clean by not practicing sins.
Also, Jesus is getting ready to stand up to bring on the wrath of God's Day,Armageddon to put in end to the "lost!"
So you are preaching the same when you stated,A person is either saved or he is lost, either entirely saved or entirely lost. I leave it in Christ hands to judge. I am a sinner and I know it whereas some want to pretend they are in the entirely saved group which no one would know that one but only the Father not even Jesus.
But it was a good point.
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Vanderhoven7
Excellent Perry!
I agree.
The gospel that Jehovah’s Witnesses preach is a perversion
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“... even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to you as
good news something beyond what we declared to you as good news,
let him be accursed. “ GAL 1:8 NWT
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Clearly, whenever Paul preached to sinners, all persons who accepted his gospel,
by definition and without exception;
a. became members of the body of Christ. I Cor.12:27
b. they were born again. Jn.3:3
c. they shared one hope and that was a heavenly one. II Tim.4:18
d. they received the baptism of the Holy Spirit I Cor.12:13
e. they were entitled to share in the communion loaf and cup I Cor.10:16-17
f. they shared in the New Covenant mediated by Christ Heb.12:24
g. they were fully justified through faith in Christ Jesus. Ro.3:26
h. they were declared absolutely righteous having Christ's righteousness
imputed to them. Ro.4: 22 - 25
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However, I understand that today, in accordance with certain teachings disseminated since 1935, virtually all persons who accept the Watchtower gospel;
a. do not become members of the body of Christ. ______________
b. they cannot be born again. ______________
c. they cannot share in the heavenly reward. ______________
d. they cannot receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit ______________
e. they are not entitled to share in the communion loaf and cup. ______________
f. they are not in the New Covenant mediated by Christ. ______________
g. they cannot be fully justified through faith in Christ Jesus. ______________
h. they cannot now be declared absolutely righteous, having Christ's
righteousness imputed to them. ______________
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Where do the scriptures teach that Christians (a - h above)?
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designs
Was Perry off his meds again. "The Bible says" that would be no, your ideas come from the NT.
V- thousands of JWs have and do partake since 1935.
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punkofnice
Why isn't the Watchtower proclaiming this Good News?
Because there's more money in the protection of paedophiles and the rubbish the pervert loving Governing Body(tm) promote.
The Governing body(tm) are not interested in 'good news', they selfishly want to keep their rock star life style.
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blondie
(Zephaniah 2:2, 3) . . ., 3 seek Jehovah, all YOU meek ones of the earth, who have practiced His own judicial decision. Seek righteousness, seek meekness. Probably YOU may be concealed in the day of Jehovah’s anger.
I will admit I haven't read the posts except the first one. This scripture always disturbed me...probably...people put their lives on the line for PROBABLY...
First, this is an OT scripture addressed to Jews not Christians. As you show Perry, it does not match up with NT scriptures. Even the WTS says that anointed jws are declared righteous (not other sheep evidently) with a more secure status.
Now this quote really gripes me. By using OT scriptures the WTS cuts Christ right out of the picture. Are there no scriptures telling Christ's followers to search, seek for him? Are they Jehovah's disciples or Jesus'? Does the NT say Christians are witnesses of Jesus or "Jehovah"? We can have the mind of Christ but not God's per Paul. Even the WTS only cross-references Zeph 2:3 to OT scriptures, not Revelation.
*** w07 11/15 p. 11 par. 5 Highlights From the Books of Nahum, Habakkuk, and Zephaniah ***
2:3. Only Jehovah can save us in the day of his anger. To remain in his favor, we need to “seek Jehovah” by carefully studying his Word, the Bible; prayerfully asking for his guidance; and drawing close to him. We must “seek righteousness” by living a morally clean life. And we need to “seek meekness” by cultivating a meek and submissive attitude.
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Probably concealed? Like David was given the go-by for adultery and murder and later chose that 70,000 people die for his sins; no probability there.
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Perry
Hey perry? If the wages sin lays is death....meaning im a sinner and i die...once i die are my sins wiped?
Hi Jon Preston,
It only works that way in the pages of the Watchtower. The biblical meaning of death is "separation". When your soul and spirit have been separated from your body....YOU ARE CONSIDERED DEAD...... biblically.
What the watchtower teaches is anniliation. This is an unbiblical heresy.
In Revelation 6: 9 "dead" souls are described in heaven speaking, feeling, and thinking.
Hebrews 9: 27 assures us that judgment awaits ALL mankind AFTER THEY DIE.
If a person rejects the blood of Jesus as a substitute for his own coming "separation penalty" for his sins; then once that separation of body/soul has occured, there is no legal way to get him back into his body for a "do-over". There are no additional opportunities to choose life once the death separation has occurred since the penalty itself prohibts rehabitation of the body. Our destiny is related to the "things done while in the body".
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. - 2 Cor. 5:10
For the believer, the things done while in the body will effect his rewards in heaven (crowns), but not his salvation, since we are declared righteous by faith/belief, and not by works. For the unbeliever, it is very different. His salvation is on the line for not choosing life "while in the body".
