Adolf Hitlers are not needed here - Band on the Rant
Godwin's Law says you lose.
The problems Bible believers have with Atheists is the burden of proof is on the Believer and we just do not have enough proof.
by booker-t 68 Replies latest watchtower bible
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cofty
If I want to sit in a beautiful church and hear celestial music, I most certainly will
Good for you. Me too.
Just don't start imagining any of the hocus-pocus is true.
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MadGiant
"Grown adults trying to impose atheism on me only make me sick. There is advocating for a sincerely held belief. Constantly making fun of people who did not agree with you for a host of reasons is a sick mind. It is no different from my father beating up on Roman Catholics at work. Have you ever considered that many believers here are better educated than you. Our minds are not stupid. I see it as a matter of aesthetics. Adolf Hitlers are not needed here. It signals that you are uncertain of your own private atheism. There is no need to anger people. All you do is hurt yourself." - BotR
People have opinions and beliefs, but these opinions and beliefs could be based in bad information. There is no logic behind them, no foundation, no evidence on which to base them.
Once that "opinion" or "belief" are made public, those "opinion" and "beliefs most withstand criticism, analysis and questioning. Should be tested, challenge and justified. And that's not an opinion or a belief.
You have to be ready to accept that without evidence to support that opinion or belief, you might be wrong and in need of correction.
I'm not sure when people began to believe that any opinion or belief was above reproach, or that the idea that someone's opinions or beliefs could be made fun of is anathema.
Show some evidence to chance my opinion.
Ismael
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kaik
Grown adults trying to impose their belifs on me only make me sick... keep it for yourself.
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defender of truth
Bandontherun said:"Constantly making fun of people who did not agree with you for a host of reasons is a sick mind."
and also:
"There is no need to anger people. All you do is hurt yourself."
.. Well put, I could not agree with you more. Please point to any post of mine where I make fun of or insult anyone.
Talking about making fun of people who disagree with you..
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race androsposteda day ago(6/30/2014)
Post5of6
"stfu either way fools."
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ablebodiedmanposteda day ago(6/29/2014)
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Joined5/6/2009
" 'I do not know how men come to the idea there is no "evidence" of intelligent design and purpose in this universe...'
Me neither.
The amount of evidence is overwhelming!
It can only be denied through ignorance or ridicule. "
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Maranathaposted~ 10 hours ago(6/30/2014)
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"silly questions about animals killing each other"
"let's ask dumb questions about God 'letting it happen', shall we?"
"Just asking stupid questions like you all are." -
defender of truth
Sorry it's off topic, but this is bothering me and I can't get it out of my head. Was my post at the bottom of page 2 insulting or offensive to anyone?It was just my musing on how people think and the possible effect of taking Bible stories literally. I wholeheartedly apologise if anyone thought I meant all Bible believers are insensitive to suffering.
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donny
Science and Religion
Christianity tried to strangle science in the crib
Read the story of Galileo, if you think this is a fib.
If you’re not quite full
There’s a lot more bull.
Try counting each and every rib!Logic And Faith 'The Tug Of War'
by Gilbert Sampson Deafening heartbeats as necropolis befalls the place
Curiosity takes his seat as Faith makes her case
her coaxing argument stronger as a clay vase
Conformity smiles in her ally’s swayed face
her words ambiguous and vague as in her name
tell me! She barks have you ever seen your brain?
if not how then are you certain he’s sane
must we heed to disputes of an unseen brain?
short for words to tell them next
she clasps the scripture and beats her chest
my name is Faith in me you trust
a ride to God I’ll drive the lost
with me in you attest the creed
the whole universe whatever you see
is God’s handiwork an art of He
who came for you to save and bleed
allies of Faith content with what they heard
Logic arose snickering and scratching his beard
he coughed to be certain his throat is clear
Curiosity’s ears again drew near
his words were harsh though firm in mind
listen to me! He roared with thundering voice
it’s folly by me seeking what I can’t find
to reason is maturity so I made that choice
the scripture you hold is nothing but book
it’s plain to see but you are blind to look
your name is Faith even you is lost
to believe a tale of a man on a cross
in you I attest the imprudence indeed
billions of years the universe had been
and that toddler you see is my very own seed
her name is Faith please not Eve -
OnTheWayOut
Because you like to ponder these things, here's the whole story in a nutshell:
God created man and woman in “His own image,” and God placed them in a garden. God told the man and woman not to eat a certain fruit. Anyway, God got angry at them when they ate the fruit after being tempted by a talking serpent that God himself had somehow allowed to slither about in the garden. It was a tasty, beautiful fruit that God himself had placed there, but God neglected to instill in His creations the knowledge of good and evil, so that they would know it was wrong to eat it. Being omniscient, of course, God knew all this before He started, but was apparently unable to do anything about it because He had planned it this way from the beginning, and apparently God cannot change anything He already knows, in spite of the fact that He’s omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent.
Later, God himself impregnated a virgin so that He himself could be born a human, a Man God. (If you want to say it was the son of God and not God himself, it really doesn't change anything.) This was necessary, apparently, because only His own ManGod or Son-of-God blood could appease Himself and deliver humans, whom He created, and who He knew would muck things up by eating the fruit, from His own righteous anger.
Of course, He waited several thousand years to implement this divine plan, in the meantime taking the righteous action of drowning every creature on the planet except a few He could stuff on a boat. Not to mention handing down a Law that served to further condemn every one of us, and in which Law He himself had them frequently sacrifice animals to appease himself, though He knew the blood of animals didn’t really appease himself.
Much later, ManGod or Son-of-God, in a garden prayed to Himself to “take this cup” away from Himself, though He himself knew that He himself had planned the coming events from the beginning and knew that not even He himself could save himself, even though he was God and omnipotent, omniscient, etc. Accepting this, He said “Not my will, but my will (or 'your' will).”
God then sacrificed Himself to Himself to save us from Himself. (or sacrificed ManGod or Son-of-God; not much of a distinction between the two, really) Before dying, He himself asked He himself why He had forsaken himself.
He himself, being dead, then raised himself from the dead less than 40 hours later, though He himself had said he’d be dead for three days and three nights, which he could do because he was still alive, and later He himself pulled himself up into heaven where He himself apparently already was, and where He himself is described as now sitting at the right hand of himself. So He didn't really sacrifice anything at all.
He himself then sent himself (or a ghost of himself, if you please) back to earth to be a comfort to us, though He himself is still sitting at the right hand of himself.
And, glory hallelujah, He himself promised that He himself will return someday, though He himself is already here, and will still be there, to snatch up those who believe the ManGod or Son-of-God blood sacrifice story He himself told us, and kill the rest of us who don’t believe the ManGod or Son-of-God blood sacrifice story, no matter how nice we were otherwise. But, since killing us isn’t enough to appease His righteousness, He himself will then judge us as to whether or not we accepted all this ManGod or Son-of-God stuff. And despite the facts that he has killed millions upon millions of His creations, be they animals and be they humans, and despite the fact that it was His own creations that failed to live up to His own expectations before He killed them, remember the most important thing of all is that He loves us all. For if you forget that, He will kill you. -
Heaven
Eratosthenes of Cyrene (modern day Libya; 276BC - 195/194 BC) is one of my heros -- an ancient Greek mathematician who, among many other things including becoming chief librarian at the Library of Alexandria, used logic and math to figure out that the Earth was not flat but curved, and was the first person to calculate the circumference of the Earth.
It is the non-religious, scientific and logical minded individuals who are giving us real, true answers. Religion is incapable of doing this because their foundation is flawed.
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galaxie
Otwo...Can I join your church.. it makes more sense.I think I'm born again Lol!
Bravo