Who's to blame? (page 3)

Thirdson

JT,

My reply to the "are you for us or against us" question would be:
Mark 9:40 "He that is not against us is for us".

Unfortunately, the WTS try to weasal out of Jesus' words, but I'd try it.

Thirdson

ianao

Mommy,

She wants me to put into writing my faiths and what I don't believe about the wtbts.

I would tend to agree with you there. Seems a grand supplement to the "tunnel of doubts" article.

Did your mother tell you WHY you should put this in writing? Just curious.

Hey Ianao
No of course not, but I am assuming so she has proof to turn in so I may be marked. See my mother has a little problem, she can not see God without the wtbts. This is not her doing, it took many years to get her completly brainwashed. She has such a loving heart and is such a good person. But when it comes between her and her religion, well they win. If the wtbts told her she needs to do this, she will. I am assuming it already has been sublimanilly(sp?) put in the mags and she picked it up. Maybe the official announcement hasn't been made, but they started planting the seed early.
BYW I did question her several times, and she wouldn't give me a straight answer. I even asked if the wtbts requested her to do this, again no answer. See there is one thing I have faith in, my mother doesn't lie. So if she doesn't answer a question you pretty well already know the answer.
wendy

Edited by - MOMMY on 23 February 2001 0:50:8

DannyBear

JT,

The 3 step senario:

l. Leak a little information, 'everyone will want to be in attendance for this'....'some grand food in due season, coming this summer'...go into hock, sell the car, mortgage the house, take a second job (don't stop auxillary pioneering though), drive less, walk more...whatever it takes brothers and sisters be there.

2. We (big brother-momma org) will be publicly telling the elder's where to get off. Don't you wanna be there to find out what new strings we are attaching? Surely you will want to know if your congregation elders, are doing what mama says. How will you know if they are doing their jobs, unless you come and let us reveal these secret new commands? We'er gonna let you low down peon, non titled publisher's feel like one of the big boys....getting first hand info direct from momma's mouth (usually a bethel elite...maybe the DO or if you live in a particularly desirable resort destination...one of the GB delivers this new food)....Wow a brightly colored new 224 page bound book, with gold leaf lettering...and a title that has to have commas and paragraphs to be grammaticaly correct. Whooooppppeeddeee Do

3. Now for three to four weeks we have to sit through another one of brother elder 'Cant get enough of it'...who seems to work in this new light (224 page book) into every comment, every prayer, every 5,10,15,20,55 min impromptu, assigned, delegated, talk that he voulunteers for, until you can't hardly bear to hear another word about the damned 'new light'. All you want to do is go back to the good ole days, when things were dark and less complicated.

Is it any wonder why so many JW elders...take their families on a little vacation, or trip to europe, or a safari, whatever, after the district conventions....it is to avoid having to return home to all the 'new light' discussions. About 30 days after each of these new feeding frenzies, the brothers return to the dulldrums..all is peaceful again in the land of Jah. Praise the lord.

BearFactious

larc

Mommy,

I know you are too savy to put anything in writing, and you are not a smart ars like I am. I would probably ask her to put in writing the reasons she wants you to put it in writing, but, of course that would go nowhere.

I try not to be paranoid, but there were two guys at our door the other day with the old style book bags. We didn't answer of course. Now we have been out for 35 years! and we have no records in this town. This used pass by our house when they worked the street, so I think they had us marked. They now are out here with their spiritual vacuum cleaners. I say f'm; Zazzu says avoid them, so we have a disagreement here, but I don't think it will lead to divorce.

DannyBear

larc,

I like the way you think. To hell with their pushy selves anyway!

Just who do they think they are (.600% of all mankind alive that will be divinely cacooned) while eveyone else is being hacked to pieces by by god's avenging hoardes? Well yes I guess they do.

Sure Wendy lets write up a little ditti of confession for em. Let's spell out that we think their little FDS is (FraudDeceitSham...Ham and Japheth) sign it..hand it over...and let all our former friends and family members, coo and ahhahh, over our slip into eternal damnation DA'd with not even the satisfaction of making three elder's grumble about an off meeting nite..meeting in the library. Sure lets make their life easier. Well Wendy are you writing your letter yet?

DannBear
Being a little tounge in cheek tonight.

mommy

Now Larc,
I can be a smart arse too every now and then. I am glad you and Zazu are going to stay together, it gets tricky splitting your retirement now One thing your wise wife told me and made me think....I have been out for 35 yrs and you have been out for 8 years, what waves we must be making huh?
Danny,
Don't tempt me. I actually was thinking of sending the list of traits of a cult. RHW posted it here and Venice posted it at H2o. But see I can do something that any JW can't do. I can accept them where they are in life and understand why they are there. Gee say that 10 times fast I have the upmost respect for my mother, without her I would not be alive. I know why she continues to do the wtbts bidding. It is ok, she has such a good heart and I know that it hurts her that some of us left. If it comes down to her really wanting me to write the letter I will. But I hope she reads it and really reads it. Maybe I can pull her away enough to see the light. But if she stays that is ok too. Because now I don't know what her life would be like without it. Can you understand this?
wendy

larc

Danny,

Thank you for your support. .6% that is not exactly a "plague of locusts" is it. They are as important as a mosquito flooting down a river on his back with an erection yelling "raise the draw bridge."

larc

Mommy,

Hey, divorce at my age is very simple and straighforward. Zazu gets everything and I get to live in a card board box under a bridge.

DannyBear

Wendy,

Your to pretty to talk to! Borrowed from UncleBluster to 7of9.

Serious Bear talkin now, you said:

***, she has such a good heart and I know that it hurts her that some of us left. If it comes down to her really wanting me to write the letter I will. But I hope she reads it and really reads it. Maybe I can pull her away enough to see the light. But if she stays that is ok too. Because now I don't know what her life would be like without it. Can you understand this?***

You bet I can. Even though I havn't spoken to my sister's in many years, I would leap at the chance to do so. Like you I would want them to really read it. Maybe if you decide to write it, you could require the caviat that if you do, you expect a point by point response from mom, regarding what she thinks of what you write. Maybe.

I understand that many have given so much, endured so much, for the relgion...that leaving it, may in fact be more harmful than staying. If it was hard for you 8yrs ago...we can imagine what it would be like for someone in their silver years eheehhm 45-65 hope mom isn't reading this. Oh well if she is anything like her daughter...she could be 75 and still looking good eh?

Slap Bear Slap...get a handel DannyBoy.

I know one thing for sure...Mom will be pulling her heart strings..whatever you decide to do. So I must agree with you, it is better to show her consideration and love, than to throw it back in her face.

Thanks for being a nurse. We need all the good one's we can get.
A sometimes thankless job...but you guys are angels in white, when we need you.

DannyBear

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