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“This is loving your neighbour as ourselves; if he needs help, help him; and if he wants salvation and it is necessary to spill his blood on the earth in order that he may be saved, spill it.”
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses , v. 4, p. 220
Wow.
Let's concentrate on the whackjobs HERE first.
Whackjobs here? You mean, like the guy in Oklahoma who beheaded a woman for not converting to Islam?
Never thought I would live to see the day when Islamic, woman inslaving, murderers of innocents, would be defensible by otherwise sensible people.
It's not that complicated folks.
“With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg
@FlyingHighNow
You do realize that twitter picture that you posted of the Muslim girl, was from 2013 right?
" Nonsense. They pop up because some peopel take the teachings of their religion seriously."
Nonsense to your nonsense.
Had Brits and French men not reneged on promises to arab governments in WWI that they would give them independence from the Ottoman empire. THis would not have happened. Brits and Frenchmen draw imaginary boundaries on a land that is not theirs and then lie to the people there and exploit them for resources and oppress them. WHich as all of you do not like to admit did happen and still is.
You create a crisis in the area , continue to oppress people and then these people become nationalistic like you guys and boom they want to get rid of these colonialist systems that lied, raped and destroyed centuries of culture. These are facts.
These ridiculous liberties you took with something that did not belong to you sparked all kinds of tribal struggles in those areas and ultimately led to a situation of your own creation that you can not really control now.
Even David Cameron is aware of the disgusting roll you played in this drama yet none of you can admit to it or try to gloss over it by blaming ISIS. All these terrorist groups that exist now have their roots in the lies and deceit of the French and the British. Sure extreme religious views play a part in the actions taking place at this time, however the incessant meddling of European nations got all of this going.
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Yes, I would rather see the US Government focus on the whackos here first, but since we already control all the resources of our own country its ok to let the whackos here continue to run amuck in society as long as it doesn't reach the upper class in this country.
would the nuts religion have mattered if he had simply gone postal with a gun?
would we have had headlines saying another Christian murders?
Anither Catholic murder
etc etc etc?
people forget there are as many different Islamic branches as there are Christian branches. they have as little in common with each other as the different Christian religions do.
i spend a lot of time in a Muslim country. a lot.
i am invariably treated with kindness and resoect. i do not see women who are oppressed. I am a strong feminist, and would have opinions on that matter... I do not see many wearing the headscarf. some do, some don't.
i see people who are honest, upright, act with respect and compassion to others.
There are things I do not like about islam, just like Christianity.
i personally am uncomfortable with women in the burka,but that is a cultural thing, NOT necessarily a Muslin thing.
This week several major Muslim leaders spoke out condemning Isis and violence,
the grand mufti of Australia was one, the leading council of Islam another.
a mosque in Brisbane opened its doors to welcome one and all.
these are the Muslims I know and respect.
Always someone who can pick the corn out of the dog crap.
" Never thought I would live to see the day when Islamic, woman inslaving, murderers of innocents, would be defensible by otherwise sensible people."
No one has defended them. Have you seen anyone supporting the actions of murderous ISIS members? No you have not.
Let me ask you this Gregor, let us say that somehow Islam is wiped clean away and all muslims in the arab world become atheists.
Do you think the USA and Europe would leave them alone to do whatever is they want and stop meddling in their affairs.
@Mikado
I would strongly suggest that you actually read what the Islam convert, and beheader of women, Alton Nolan was writting on his facebook page, in the weeks, and months leading up to this. He is a symptom of a much deeper problem. Also, don't you stand to gain financially by the fact that you employ a number of followers of this barbaric and backward religion?
