So what has Islam contributed to the world in the last few centuries?
Oklahoma beheading - Islam is a disease
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Mikado
simon what so the westboro nuts say that the bible doesn't promote?
seems to me they've got the hate part down pretty well pat! and the smiting part also.
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Simon
A know off the top of my head that it was a Greek dude who calculated the circumference of the earth. I'm not going to bother trying to debunk the rest of the list because it's hardly major innovations and nothing recent which is the whole point - they have not progressed and I wonder what has stunted their civilization?
But it occurs to me there is a simpler way of explaining the difference between Christainity and Islam and why one is more dangerous than the other:
Christians believe that god is going to return and destroy the non-believers.
Muslims believe that god wants them to kill the non-believers.
Neither deity exists so both are powerless but that just means that Christians are waiting around for something that is never going to happen. Hardly dangerous and many fill the time doing 'christian works' like treating Ebola, feeding the poor etc... Even going to help people in non-Christian lands - incredibly aid workers go to Muslim countries to help despite the risks.
But the muslim god IS dangerous despite his non-existance because the commandments are for his followers to do all the killing and smiting.
Even the WBC nuts are still just all hot-air and waiting around, just telling people that they will be smited when their god arrives. Not the same as beheading co-workers who won't convert to your own brand of insanity.
One religion is vastly more dangerous and destructive than the other.
One religion is a disease of the mind that stunts civilization and kills.
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ablebodiedman
If you are a muslim and reading this - first of all, bravo for getting enough of an education to read in the first place and secondly - how and why do you identify yourself as part of the same group of people who believe and do things like this? Do you honestly think it is "the truth"? Wake up!
I think that many Muslims do indeed believe that THE prophesied Jihad has started.
Also that ALL Muslims believe in an eventual Jihad.
The Muslim in Oklahoma seemed to confirm this by his actions.
This really could escalate into something more world wide with some Oklahoma copycats and added backlash vindication from extremists who call themselves Christian.
Here is a few scriptures for Christians to think about:
Matthew 26:52
Then Jesus said to him: "Return your sword to its place, for all those who take the sword will perish by the sword.
Genesis 9:6
Anyone shedding man’s blood, by man will his own blood be shed, for in God’s image he made man.
Revelation 13:10
If anyone will kill with the sword, he must be killed with the sword. Here is where it means the endurance and faithof the holy ones.
Is our faith being tested?
Matthew 10:22
And YOU will be objects of hatred by all people on account of my name; but he that has endured to the endis the one that will be saved.
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LoveUniHateExams
@Mikado Comparing Westboro lunatics with islamist lunatics is a waste of time. The Westboro lunatics haven't blown up or beheaded anybody.
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cofty
99.999999% of christians publicly criticise Westboro.
A tiny minority of Muslims publicly criticise the Quran's teachings on how to treat women, non-muslims and apostates.
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lisaBObeesa
"So let's ban all Christians too."
While I despise most religions, right now it doesn't appear to be doing a whole lot of evil in the world. The new Pope guy is actually kind of cool!
That doesn't matter. If you believe that all of Islam is a 'disease' because of a tiny number of Islamic terrorist, then it logically follows that all of Christianity is a disease because of a tiny number Christian terrorist.
After 1981, members of groups such as the Army of God began attacking abortion clinics and doctors across the United States. [ 63 ] [ 64 ] [ 65 ] A number of terrorist attacks were attributed by Bruce Hoffman to individuals and groups with ties to the Christian Identity and Christian Patriot movements, including the Lambs of Christ. [ 66 ] A group called Concerned Christians was deported from Israel on suspicion of planning to attack holy sites in Jerusalem at the end of 1999; they believed that their deaths would "lead them to heaven". [ 67 ] [ 68 ]
The motive for anti-abortionist Scott Roeder murdering Wichita doctor George Tiller on 31 May 2009 was the belief that abortion is not only immoral, but also a form of murder under "God's law", irrespective of "man's law" in any country, and that this belief went "hand in hand" with his religious beliefs. [ 69 ] [ 70 ] The group supporting Roeder proclaimed that any force used to protect the life of a born child is "legitimate to protect the life of an unborn child", and called on all Christians to "rise up" and "take action" against threats to Christianity and to unborn life. [ 71 ] Eric Robert Rudolph carried out the Centennial Olympic Park bombing in 1996, as well as subsequent attacks on an abortion clinic and on a lesbian nightclub. Michael Barkun, a professor at Syracuse University, considers Rudolph to likely fit the definition of a Christian terrorist. James A. Aho, a professor at Idaho State University, argues that religious considerations inspired Rudolph only in part. [ 72 ]
Hutaree was a Christianmilitia group based in Adrian, Michigan. In 2010, after an FBI agent infiltrated the group a federal grand jury in Detroit indicted nine of its members on charges of seditious conspiracy to the use of improvised explosive devices, teaching the use of explosive materials, and possessing a firearm during a crime of violence. [ 73 ] On 28 March 2012, the conspiracy charges were dismissed. [ 74 ] Terrorism scholar Aref M. Al-Khattar has listed The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord, Defensive Action, The Freemen Community, and some "Christian militia" as groups that "can be placed under the category of far-right-wing terrorism" that "has a religious (Christian) component". [ 75 ]
"what is senseless/ arrogant and the height of idiotic is to suggest that being a Muslim be a crime. Being a part of a group like ISIS should be"
So what is the difference between them? Don't both groups believe in the same Quoran?
So then there is no difference between the abortion clinic bomber and all the other 99.999% of Christians because they believe in the same Bible.
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Gregor
Muslim apologists - 0
Ordinary people observing the ugliness of Islamic radicals - 100
confused and alone - you picked a very accurate avatar name. Please do not put on a suicide vest and walk into a kindergarten class. There is help available for phsycho's like you.
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Violia
if you can stand a little joking, Bill Mayer really did a pretty good job of pointing out difference the westren world is ( BETTER) than Muslim world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjxgDLRALFo
I am dazed and confused that folks on a board that have survived a high control religion would be ok with the Muslim beliefs in the name of multi-culturalism. crazy is crazy, whatever culture it is or religion is it.
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