by Simon 1524 Replies latest members adult
confusedandalone, following simons logic ALL Americans were responsible for those KKK monsters, and all should have been banned or worse...
No, it would only be the same if others also claimed to be KKK as well ... but "just the nice reasonable ones".
Are you saying that the KKK were misunderstood and the majority were good and decent folks and it was just a few bad eggs that caused the problems?
bohm Would you consider colonialism or imperialism ideologies?
So I guess we'll just chalk this womans head getting lopped off to another isolated incident from an Islamic phsyco, and forget the whole thing ever happened. Marathon's getting bombed, hey no problemo! And while we're at it, lets just continue to be okay with human rights violations of a grand scale on Muslim women, happening within our own borders. And we'll all just pretend that it's all okay, because Islam is a really a cool, and burkas really are fashionable in the workplace. We would bend over backwards for it, and never want to offend the religion of peace would we? Well done!
no, I'm saying that they were Americans, and the logical extention of your position is that therefore all Americans were responsible for them andactually supported them or if not, weren't REAL Americans
Here's a nice lecture on the true nature of islam and why we fear it.
Not sure how to post a link... http://youtu.be/t_Qpy0mXg8Y
So I guess we'll just chalk this womans head getting lopped off to another isolated incident from a phsyco and forget the whole thing. And while we're at it, lets just continue to be okay with human rights violations of a grand scale of Muslim women happening within our own borders. And we'll all just pretend that it's all okay because Islam is a really a religion peace and we would never want to offend it. Well done!
So I guess we we'll just chalk up American and Britians raping and pillaging of the entire earth to another isolated incident from a phsyco and forget the whole thing. And while we're at it, lets just continue to be okay with human rights violations on a grand scale of everyone who is a Caucasian male happening within our own borders. And we'll all just pretend that it's all okay because the USofA is a really a nation of peace and we would never want to offend it. Well done!
See how easy that was
too tired to care,
throughout history young men have always flocked to causes, sadly Isis is unspeakably bad.
the real trouble is when a group of disaffected young men, or mentally ill, flock to such a repulsive mentality.
BUT that is not the same as Islam.
no, I'm saying that they were Americans, and the logical extention of your position is that therefore all Americans were responsible for them andactually supported them or if not, weren't REAL Americans
That is not a logical extension - people are American predominently by 'accident of birth' and could not en-masse chose to belong or not belong to the group or distance themselves from it in any reasonable way.
They could chose to label themselves as belonging to the Klan though because "they chose to follow it's believe system" which is a much sounder logical comparison.
Contributing not a damn thing to humanity for 1400 years.
In lashing out at extremism, please let's not become extremists ourselves (do we really have to lower ourselves to that level!)
The above quotation is incorrect. Arab scholars actually contributed much to the sciences of mathematics, astronomy and medicine. During the centuries of the Dark Ages, the three centres of learning in the entire world were Baghdad, Cordoba and Constantinople. Of these, the first two were under Muslim rule, and scholars were actually welcomed (NOT merely tolerated). That contrasted completely with those lands under the sway of the Roman Catholic church, where learning was suppressed, and could easily have got you under suspicion for heresy.
We can thank the Arabs that we use the 1,2, 3, 10, 50, 100, 1000 .... type numerical system - rather than the clumsy Roman I, II, II, III, X, L, C, M ...... system that was in use before that. Much of the algebra still in use was also developed by Arab scholars, and it was other Arab scholars who both preserved, and added to, the medical science developed by the Greeks.
In this, as in all other matters, it does pay to be certain of the facts before making accusations (leave the making of wild accusations to the Reverend Rednecks around the place!)
Bill.
confusedandalone: Is any of that happening right now? If it was, we would be rightly concerned about it and condemning it. Unless someone is pointing to those things and saying "this was awesome!" then I don't think you have a point to make other than "other bad things happened so we shouldn't try and stop other bad things happening" (?)
