Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions 443 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  StarTrekAngel

  I continued to be amazed by the number of apologists who seems to think that a small sin is not a problem. Apparently Jehovah is too busy explaining frugal details about the virgins, or sending instructions to kids as to what should be in ther field bag, but has no interest on the issues that are not only stumbling many, but also costing his dear org so much resources.

  They are so deluded in their thinking that they have completely forgotten what this is all about. I've gone to one other site where some guy attempts to explain the whole Malawi-Mexico thing, excusing the WT in Mexico by saying that this "briving the officials was a customary practice at the time". So this seems like is reason enough for them to let the Malawi brothers die.
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  Splash

  Gustv Of course! All things progress. Things become so much clearer as the sun progresses. Keep up y'all!!!

  So what is it called when you change your mind BACK to something you USED to teach, but had since 'thoroughly disproved'?

  Is that progress? Regress? Madness? Source of stress? Implausibleness? Stupidness? Gullibleness?

  What it means, Gustv, is that you will personally believe whatever you are told to believe, because you have given up your own thinking ability and handed it over to somebody else to think on your behalf.

  Your beliefs can be changed again at a moments notice. You will say "Oh, that makes sense!"
  Then they will change back, and you will say "Oh, that makes sense!"

  There's a name for vacuous people like you.

  Splash
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  pronomono

  I doubt there will be a "test your faith" announcement. At least at our hall, we are encouraged to invite everyone. This includes bible studies, family, and friends - not just JW publishers and higher rank. In our area this is being advertised as a public event. Unless we have the wrong idea about it, this seems more like a PR stunt to me to make everyone feel warm and fuzzy inside.
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  StarTrekAngel

  OH hey Gustav... since you seem to know everything and you seem to think that this gathering of the poor is so harmonious with the word of God. Explain the following please...

  The org built a new Assembly Hall in our area about 3 years ago. This was seen by most as the greatest blessing from Jehovah in their lifetime. The reason? The average household income in the are is bellow $12K annually. One of the poorest areas in the US. But that was not the only reason they felt so blessed. In this circuit, 60% of the brothers are illegal inmigrants from latin america. They were never able to attend the 3 day assemblies in Houston, not only because it was expensive to them, but also because they don't have the legal documents to travel far from the Texas border without being deported. So please tell me...

  -How is it the the org never deemed it necessary to have a local assembly for them? Because my mother in law has been a witness for a while and she never had one here, only after the assembly hall was built.

  - But the better question is... how to do you explain that, after spending 5 million plus interest, our circuit had no assemblies in that hall in all of 2014? We were all sent to Houston or other areas. Our undocumented brothers were once again left in the dark.

  That the slave does not know the condition of this brothers is not an answer.

  I know the God I believe in, Jehovah, would have not done this.

  I expect an answer.
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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  GC: The abusers issue is of no consequence.

  Unless, of course, you are that one that was raped as a child by a JW and firther victimized by the religion that defended the rapist.

  GC: The Org just has to come to terms with implementing a new guidance to turn these people to the local authorities.

  If the pedophilia is "of no consequence", then why would WT change its policies?

  Actually, for the number of existing JWs, the number of abuse cases is really minuscule

  How would you know? WT has hidden most of these cases through gag order settlements, and keeps it hushed within the Org. itself. 99% + of JWs have never heard of the Conti case or the recent case in San Diego to the tune of $13,5 million. If JWs are ignorant of the most newsworthy cases, it's reasonable to say the scope of the problem is much larger than can be imagined.

  GC, why are you here? Your Governing Body explicitly orders you not to go onto "apostate" websites, yet here you are. Why do you defend your leadership when even you don't believe what they say?
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  AlwaysBusy

  There is nothing the org can do or say that will test my faith in Jehovah or Jesus...but the org has already done plenty to test my faith in them. Bring in on! AB

  In response to another comment on this thread.

  I realise that some of you are convinced that the amount of children abused in the KHs around the world is 'miniscule'. I, on the other hand, believe that the amount of children abused at the KHs is monstrous (not to mention all of the others bullied and abused by active JWs).

  1. My sons were drugged and molested by an elder, and so was their best JW buddy, and the elder had been molesting and raping young brothers for 20 years previous to that.

  2. In next congo in which I was a member, there was a JW pedophile (my husband and I were told this by an elder's wife). She also mentioned to us another pedo in the neighboring congo.

  I consider that to be a great deal of abuse. And that's just the 3 congs I attended....what else is happening out there? All of this has not weakened my faith in God, but it sure has weakened my faith in humans.

  Some day I believe that Jehovah will grab the org by the neck and shake it until all the abusers, riff-raff, bullies and evil is thrown out for the world to see. I think the tribulation will start from within.

  Take Care,

  AB
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  Londo111

  I'm glad to see the occasional JW apologist...they are getting fewer and fewer. Gone are the days of debating 607 and robust doctrinal arguements.

  Where have all the apologists gone?
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  Londo111

  AlwaysBusy: I'm sorry to hear that. So tragic!
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  AlwaysBusy

  Londo 111 ~ Thank you
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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Where have all the apologists gone?

  Texting for return visits or sitting 30 feet from their Devil Carts sipping a Starbucks Grande Frappuccino, no doubt

  Gone are the days of debating 607 and robust doctrinal arguements.

  NeoJW: "607? What's that? Is that how many text return visits you've done today?"

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  @ AlwaysBusy...it is unconscionable how some here (no names mentioned, but his initials are GC) can be so callous to such an issue. I'm with you...this Org. is depraved and a day of reckoning is coming.