Was justice served fairly in the Micheal Brown tragedy, whats your opinion ?

by Finkelstein 164 Replies latest social current

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  sammielee24

  W.F. PRICE on SEPTEMBER 16, 2013

  The idea that white people have unearned racial privilege is an insidious lie that justifies everything from discrimination against white children to reflexively blaming disadvantaged and poor whites for their misfortune. It’s a slander that serves the elite while slapping the common people across the face.

  Fortunately, it’s very easy to debunk because of the nature of privilege.

  Privileges, whether earned or not, give one an advantage over others who do not share them. However, the advantage is relative; it does not exist when the unprivileged are absent.
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  lisaBObeesa

  was - you do understand past tense right?

  Talk about insulting.

  Anyway, the post was about the past, and how in the past this poster said they did not have white privilege. so yeah, WAS.
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  lisaBObeesa

  actually Lisa I helped a black man ( minister ) eat at that diner ( at age 12-13 I was)and both of us were asked to leave and I was told I was not a proper Christian girl ( READ WHITE GIRL) and I could not come back. We were treated badly in the community, Lisa. You did not grow up there Lisa and know not of what I speak.

  You are right, I did not grow up were you grew up.

  But it is true that you were not asked to leave because of the color of your skin.

  You were asked to leave because of the color of the black man's skin.
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  Pacopoolio

  lisa, yes, you responded correctly to the post as the subject of the post you responded to was "the past."
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  Simon

  Pacopoolio: I don't think whether you get a date or not on a dating site is a fair measure of whether you are disadvantaged or discriminated against. If people are not attracted to you for whetever reason then they are not attracted to you. Unlucky!

  That would seem to have more to do with how many people use such sites as part of their culture. I have no idea how match.com or other online dating sites are viewed within black communities.

  If you followed your claim to it's logical conclusion then if someone was "fair" in your eyes they would like all people of a race equally which is never going to be the case.

  I general I don't find black women as attractive as white women. But I find some black women very attractive and some white women a lot more attractive than others. How is race playing a part in that? If I'm discriminating against anyone it's simply people I happen to find less attractive.

  Other things such as shades of makup come down to market forces in the same way that people with big feet have less choice when it comes to shoes - stores stock more of what they sell. I'm sure there are stores that do very well targeting a different demographic. If there was demand for product and money to be made I don't think stores would *not* stock things because of some corporate-level racism.
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  Simon

  Anyway, the post was about the past, and how in the past this poster said they did not have white privilege. so yeah, WAS .

  lisa, yes, you responded correctly to the post as the subject of the post you responded to was "the past."

  I don't think we need to debate whether there was white privelege in the past! Slavery? Case closed.

  The issue is whether "white privelege" still exists now and if so, how much and in what forms. Examples from 40-50 years ago don't seem to help with that IMO.
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  Pacopoolio

  So if 85% of the women in your area exclude you without looking, that doesn't mean you're disadvantaged? You have a much smaller pool to work with than other people relative to anything but race - that's the definition of "disadvantaged." Even if it only means you have to scroll through 8X more profiles as another person, it still means "disadvantage." It's the very meaning of a handicap (think of golf).

  edit: Market forces are irrelevant when the subject is privilege. Privilege does not assign blame.
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  Pacopoolio

  Simon, she was not responding to the topic as a whole, she was specifically showing the poster the flaw in their own logic, of which there was a huge one that practically anyone reading it could see. Seeing that flaw could have helped the poster make progress in understanding a concept that they did not necessarily grasp at first. Distracting from that by switching the sbject of her response from precise to broad concept doesn't really help at all with the communication that she was attempting to establish.
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  Simon

  Pacopoolio: It seems pointless trying to argue that black people were discriminated against in the past. No one is arguing that they weren't. It's a pointless distraction that just confuses the dicsussion.
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  Simon

  So if 85% of the women in your area exclude you without looking, that doesn't mean you're disadvantaged? You have a much smaller pool to work with than other people relative to anything but race - that's the definition of "disadvantaged." Even if it only means you have to scroll through 8X more profiles as another person, it still means "disadvantage." It's the very meaning of a handicap (think of golf).

  By your argument, black people are not the most disadvantaged. All the smaller groups are who make up a smaller proportion of the population.

  You are confusing different things - one based on size of a population and the other based on discrimination and prejudice. You can't take one to prove the other.