Let the evidence begin!!
SS
by QUANTUM 109 Replies latest jw friends
Let the evidence begin!!
SS
The tanners are a poor and ridiculous source for slaming the church. Their false knowledge and statements have been uncovered and answered many years ago. No one except the completely ignorant accept their falacious writings.
AS I said...the church has never hidden anything of it's past.....were some Mormons racists...no doubt... Did Joseph smith try to adopt a black child...yes...she lived with them many years.....did he Run for President of the united states and supported freeing the slaves and had a workable plan to do so...yes.....Are the journel of discourses a completly accurate library for what was said and done ...no ..many of the things were writen by scribes which were recording things that J. Smith and others were saying at public and private occasions.....it is not the gospel...
QUANTUM THE UNDEFEATED!!!
Isn't there a verse somewhere in the Bible that says that nothing should be added to the scriptures.... the Mormons have added a whole book, a book that for them is more holy than the Bible itself... the JW rely on the Watchtower more than the Bible... cults, both of them.
True Christians are noted for good fruitage including love and JOY. I saw on TV where Mormons themselves are alarmed by the high number of Mormon school students suiciding in Utah. This is not joyful good fruitage but rotten, deadly, dangerous. The Watchtower Society like your Mormon leaders mislead and destroy lives. Do you wish to say this is false. Go ahead and do so if you wish to challenge the truthfulness of the media, even as your WTS cousins are doing.
Quantum, you've GOT to be kidding..............Joseph Smith and his family were all into folk magic and the guy was probably high as a kite when he had these "visions"...........perhaps you should go to your home page on the internet, type in the words: Joseph + Smith + fraud............you'll get over 1600 hits......
WELL, amazing......
you need to read more than one side of an issue. The validity to the Book Of Abraham is not in what someone said Smith was able or unable to do but the text itself which is now baffling non member scholars as they compare it to recently recovered ancient writings which agree with stupid old JOE Smith who don't know nuttin or is just a big bad fraud. name calling can't change the facts.
What about those young Mormon Missionaries.....up until they go on a mission few have any real in depth knowledge of the church or it's doctrine...but most have a conviction that the church is true which is confirmed by the end of their mission.
they have a specfic set of teachings they persue. The Lord nor the church is sending Bible scholars out to try and convince people by superior intellect of the scriptures thruth. WE teach that everyone has to seek GODS answer whether we teach a true or false docrine. Some questions are asked by people which the missionaries don't know or think they know. Some answer them wrong....the doctrines of the church have not change since the prophet first saw GOD and JESUS CHRIST in the grove of trees near his home in up state NY
Equating the American Indian with the Book Of Mormon Peoples is inaccurate and does not account for a host of other vital details. It is not certain, but it is commonly held by most Mormon scholarship that Lehi and his family landed in Mezoamerica just below Mexico and remained there for the entire saga of their history. Other previous migrations to the Americas are numerous and are not accounted for in the Book...some are.....The American Indian may have some of the blood of Lehi's decendants but that is pure speculation.
J. Smith was not Jesus Christ and never claimed superiority to HIM. He was given a gun after he entered the jail because the govenor who swore to protect him and his brother so a fair trial could conviene, skipped out of town so he could be assasinated. J. Smith was brought before judges and magistrates all of his life and was only convicted once for something equivalent to disturbing the peace..when he was around 18 years old.
QUANTUM IS A GREAT TEACHER he doesn't spell very well though
Edited by - QUANTUM on 11 July 2002 20:32:21
Edited by - QUANTUM on 11 July 2002 20:33:50
these things are for the pure in heart, not for the pharisees!
Thank goodness we have you to distinguish between them for us.
If you're not intersted I don't care to hear about it.Fuck you.
Ummmm.....
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Am I to take that this is now a Mormon board?
D8TA
We will not "be imprisoned" by either the Mormons or the WTS.
Your elders, which I perceive you are, also use "Theocratic Warfare" word trickery excused by your being God's one and only manifestation of the kingdom on earth and thus entitled to fabricate. You wrote "I believe you will find that the LDS church does not conceal or hide anything about itself." which is loaded with dodges if closely thought about.
For example you do not state from whom you "do not conceal or hide" things, and it is a fact that you have a temple ritual for sealing which after performance requires you to wear extra undergarments that the general public is not aware of. In the book of Mormon you say Christ was born in Jerusalem which is false but then you hasten to say, well, Bethlehelm is part of Jerusalem's greater metropolitan area, which is ridiculous reaching.
ss
you need to lean a little more about the bible...only about 20% of people, places and events can be varified from history, and archeology........you would think that with several million hebrews trampsing around the Sainai desert that other peoples would be aware of them and make mention of them....no such thing has been found. Thousands of things can be mentioned regarding what is not said about the Bible. What is said is the important thing as is the case with The Book Of Mormon.