Witnesses Just Want To Have Fun!

by Englishman 61 Replies latest jw friends

  • dmouse
    dmouse

    Mimilly, while not banning chess outright the society has many times warned about the negative things regarding the game, and we all know what good dubbies will make of that.

    For example:

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    AWAKE 1973 3/22 13-14 Chess-What Kind of Game Is It? *** Relation to War

    This is the games military connotations, which are obvious. The opposing forces are called the enemy. These are attacked and captured; the purpose being to make the opposing king surrender. Thus Horowitz and Rothenberg say in their book The Complete Book of Chess under the subheading Chess Is War: The functions assigned to [the chess pieces], the terms used in describing these functions, the ultimate aim, the justified brutality in gaining the objective alladd up to war, no less.

    It is generally accepted that chess can be traced to a game played in India around 600 C.E. called chaturanga, or the army game. The four elements of the Indian armychariots, elephants, cavalry and infantrywere represented by the pieces that developed through the centuries into rooks, bishops, knights and pawns. Thus the New York Times, August 31, 1972, observed:

    Chess has been a game of war ever since it was originated 1,400 years ago. The chessboard has been an arena for battles between royal courts, between armies, between all sorts of conflicting ideologies. The most familiar opposition has been the one created in the Middle Age with one set of king, queen, knights, bishops, rooks and pawns against another.

    Other conflicts depicted have been between Christians against barbarians, Americans against British, cowboys against Indians and capitalists against Communists. . . . It is reported that one American designer is now creating a set illustrating the war in Vietnam.

    Probably most modern chess players do not think of themselves as maneuvering an army in battle. Yet are not the games connections with war obvious? The word for pawn is derived from a Medieval Latin word meaning foot soldier. A knight was a mounted man-at-arms of the European feudal period. Bishops took an active part in supporting their sides military efforts. And rooks, or castles, places of protection, were important in medieval warfare.

    Thus Reuben Fine, a chess player of international stature, wrote in his book The Psychology of the Chess Player: Quite obviously, chess is a play-substitute for the art of war. And Time magazine reported: Chess originated as a war game. It is an adult, intellectualized equivalent of the maneuvers enacted by little boys with toy soldiers.

    While some chess players may object to making such a comparison, others will readily acknowledge the similarity. In fact, in an article about one expert chess player, the New York Times noted: When Mr. Lyman looks at a chessboard, its squared outlines dissolve at times into the hills and valleys and secret paths of a woodland chase, or the scarred ground of an English battlefield.

    When one considers the complex movements, as opposing chessboard armies vie with each other for position, one may wonder whether chess has been a factor in the development of military strategy. According to V. R. Ramachandra Dikshitar, it has. In his book War in Ancient India he examined this matter at length, and concluded: The principles of chess supplied ideas to the progressive development of the modes and constituents of the army.

    The Need for Caution

    Some chess players have recognized the harm that can result from playing the game. According to The Encyclopdia Britannica, the religious reformer John Huss, . . . when in prison, deplored his having played at chess, whereby he had lost time and run the risk of being subject to violent passions.

    The extreme fascination of chess can result in its consuming large amounts of ones time and attention to the exclusion of more important matters, apparently a reason Huss regretted having played the game. Also, in playing it there is the danger of stirring up competition with one another, even developing hostility toward another, something the Bible warns Christians to avoid doing.

    Then, too, grown-ups may not consider it proper for children to play with war toys, or at games of a military nature. Is it consistent, then, that they play a game noted to be, in the opinion of some, an intellectualized equivalent of the maneuvers enacted by little boys with toy soldiers? What effect does playing chess really have upon one? Is it a wholesome effect?

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    Now, if you ask your local elder round for a game of chess after that magazine came out what do you think will be the reaction?

  • William Penwell
    William Penwell

    At get togethers my brother in law used get everyone to play Bible Charades or Sing along to Kingdom songs. Now isn't that just special everyone. But you had to know my brother in law. He was the one that would physically abuse his kids but put in pioneer hours in the service.

    Will

  • Angharad
    Angharad

    I got invited to a tupper-ware party once - I made some excuse YAWN

    I went to an Ann Summer's party a few weeks ago - that was much more interesting

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Hey E-man,Over here in the Great White North it really depended which part of the country you were from. The only thing you could count on was contradiction from congragation to congragation.Playing cards,not playing cards.Chess,not playing chess.Wearing a leather coat in the service,not wearing a leather coat out in the service.The list go`s on and on...OUTLAW

  • thewiz
    thewiz

    how about blowing bambi to pieces.

    My wife was relating what the person studying (yeah she started studying again) with her said,

    "sometimes, my husband prays to Jehovah when he is out hunting, while he's waiting there [to blow bambi to pieces] because the things Jehoavh created are just so beautiful." -BLAME, KABOW. "oops i missed, now where was i? oh yes thank you Jehovah for this most delicious ice cream. and thank you for my boys who i will raise to kill other bambi's."

  • William Penwell
    William Penwell

    Yes I know a bunch of good dubs that will go up once or twice a year, hunting just because they love the thrill of the kill. Its just a good excuse also for them to get away from their "loving" christain wives and piss it up drink for the weekend.

    Will

  • Prisila
    Prisila

    We had a blast! (REALLY). We would get together every Saturday after the meeting, do a potluck and then dance the night away (Salsa, Merengue, Cumbia, Rock, House). It was a blast!!! We did that every Saturday night and Sunday until wee hours of the next day. For about 5 months straight! Most were MS some elders but then we stopped waking up on tome for Sunday preaching and out the door our fun went. We had a Special Necessities meeting. It was all abruptly ended. I miss those days. We also used to go clubbing to downtown . That was a little frowned upon be huge groups of us use to go. Not much elders could do.

    At social events we'd play guys vs. gal charades from my book of Bible stories. Or hot potato whoever was left with the potato when music stopped was completely humiliated.

    AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH . . . those were the good old days. Now everyone hates me and can't even stand to look at me.

    Edited by - prisila on 25 July 2002 19:30:15

    Edited by - prisila on 25 July 2002 19:30:39

  • Francois
    Francois

    I liked to Play Noah with the elder's daughter playing Noah's offspring.

    Also liked rollerskating. But we were warned that there were an awful lot of worldly people at the rollerskating rink.

    francois

  • DakotaRed
    DakotaRed

    dmouse, chess seems to be another one of those depends on which elder you ask and what time of day it is. When studying, I was encouraged to get rid of my chess game. FAT CHANCE! It is hand carved German and Turkish men I picked up while stationed in Germany. After baptizm, I went to another elders house, invited to look at his car, no less, and we sat down and played a game of chess with his set.

    Even though earlier Watchtowers discourage it, it seems that not all follow that today. Maybe just another prime example of ever changing light?

    *** g94 1/22 29 Watching the World ***
    Laser-Gun Tag Games

    The object of the game is to shoot and not to get shot too many times yourself, reports The Globe and Mail of Toronto, Canada. The traditional game of tag has gone high tech. After ten minutes of shooting others with beams of light in a futuristic, sinister, fog-filled arena with pumped-up music, one participant described it as stress-relieving. Hundreds of such entertainment centers are popping up in North America, England, Europe, Australia, and Israel. There is growing concern that such amusement encourages violence. University of Calgary sociology professor Robert Stebbins said in The Globe: There is a fuzzy line between war games considered problematic and those considered acceptable, such as chess with its castles and armies. The intent is violent. One teenage player said: It seems kind of weird to promote a game for pleasure that is associated with war. . . . When you think of the message this gives, it doesnt seem right.

    *** g83 9/8 16 Are Violent Video Games Really Harmful? ***
    Are They Addictive?

    Of course, any game can become addictive. But violent video games are especially so. Your mind can wander in a game like chess. But these video games, even more than pinball, demand total concentration, explained Sherry Turkle, a sociologist with the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Once you enter that world youve got to stay.

    Maybe with the advent of computer games, the GB now considers chess harmless and tame?

    As for my contribution to JW fun times, what about weed pulling around the Kingdom Halls?

    Lew W

    Watchtower Decruit

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    The new book being released at this year's District Conventions has a picture of the new system showing a family picnic and a boy kicking a soccer ball.

    So, presumably, since these activities are to be done in the new system, it's OK to do them now.

    The irony is that to play soccer in the old system is frowned upon, since it's "competitive sport". You know how the borg's argument goes, don't you?

    So that leaves the picnic!!

    Edited by - ozziepost on 25 July 2002 21:9:14

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