by Nowhere 119 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse
Stinky,
The psychology I spoke of can't be learned in books; rather, it comes from experience in dealing with kids.
I don't condemn parents who utilize moderate physical discipline as part of their approach to child rearing; I just choose to use a non-violent means of discipline. I get satisfaction out of correcting bad conduct without resorting to bad conduct myself.
114001-
So you consider spanking bad conduct and violent?
144001-
I hope that I don't sound antagonistic because I'm not trying to be. I honestly wanna know. I don't have kids and when I do I my husband and I have decided not to spank them. Even though this is true I don't really see anything wrong with spanking a child, I just choose not to. I suppose that's a contradiction.
Stinky,
Striking another human is violent, regardless of how it is characterized.you choose to characterize it. And yes, it is my opinion that it is bad conduct, but it is also my opinion that those who choose to judge other parents using
by their own standards on this issue are also engaging in bad conduct. Experience taught me that parenting is hard work, and that I shouldn't judge others solely because they deal with parenting in a manner that differs from me. Larc's stated responses to misconduct in his house are certainly reasonable, and I don't think any less of him because he did what he did.
Every kid is unique, and as Larc points out, what works on one may not work on another. Hence I believe that parents ought to be given latitude, within reasonable limits, on the subject of discipline. Just as it is wrong for me to judge Larc as being a bad parent for using physical discipline, it is also wrong for others here to criticize parents who choose a non-violent approach to discipline.
I hope this clarifies my opinion on this issue.
Editing: Additions are underlined, deletions are struck through. Edited to remove the erroneous and unintended appearance of a personal attack, and to add clarity.
Edited by - 144001 on 21 August 2002 20:8:31
Thanks. I just like to here different opinions. I hope you don't think I was criticzing. I've found that my written words come out way harsher than I mean them to be.
I don't hit my daughter. Never have. I was beat like hell growing up, but somebody's got to stop the cycle along *this* branch of the family tree and it might as well be me.
I'm big on discipline -- don't get me wrong. I just happen to think that people who resort to physical force to "teach" lack imagination.
Just curious: why is it against the law for officers to hit felons in a federal penitentiary (as discipline/punnishment) but the bible says it's okay to hit/beat people one-tenth our size? If ya asked me... jehovah was one f***ed up dude.
Here is what happens when parents follow WT advice:
Girl died after parents hit her 160 times, court told
[North Sports Final Edition] Kirsten Scharnberg and Eric Ferkenhoff, Tribune staff reporters Tribune staff reporter Rudolph Bush contributed to this report; Chicago Tribune; Nov 14, 2001; pg. 1
[Larry Slack] lashed [Laree Slack] four or five times with the same cord he had used on her brother, according to the prosecutor, but he grew angrier still when the girl attempted to squirm away. The father ordered his two teenage sons to tie Laree face down to a metal futon frame and then administered 39 lashes to the girl's back, [Beth ...
These parents were Jehovah's Witnesses.
Proverbs 23:13
Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you punish him with the rod,he will not die.
Could it be that the word of god failed? Jehovah does not lie, or does he?
Oh, yes, please spank me!
This is so totally pointless. Nowhere didn't want advice, Nowhere wants to condemn those who spank and tell us that he/she has no respect for us. Well, I'm going to be losing some sleep over that tonight. There are spankers and non-spankers, rarely do they ever cross over to the other side.
I was spanked, my husband was beaten. There is a difference. Fortunately my husband hasn't needed therapy over his abuse but he has made the choice not to carry on the tradition. We spank our kids but rarely. Time outs are pointless with my son. They work for my daughter.
Rachel
