Its Time to get IRAQ (page 4)

Farkel

Simon,

What is find ironic is that Europe stands to lose a lot more of Sadaam goes on a rampage than if the US does. We too, had our own pacifists preceeding WWII. Our people were weary of fighting another great war like WWI. As a result, the Japs slaughtered 1,100 or so of our people on our own soil and Hitler declared war on us, too.

Terrorists like those sponsored by Sadaam slaughtered 3,000 of our own civilians on our own soil just a year ago. They are planning more attacks. Are we supposed to sit here and NEGOTIATE with these murderers to appease a bunch of European do-gooder liberals? I don't think so.

: I do not think that it would be wrong to remove Saddam ... but ... if things are to get better, and not worse (or at least carry on as they are) then we need to do things differently.

What do you suggest we do to make Saddam or "things" get better? Shall we arrange a knitting party with him and play Karen Carpenter songs?

The old "innocent people" will get killed is a red-herring. Innocent people get killed everyday in peacetime, and innocent people always get killed in wartime. I don't like war any more than anyone else, but this ALREADY IS war, in case you've forgotten. The terrorists themselves declared war by attacking our own people on our own soil, and we're not going to any damn knitting party with them.

Thank God for George Bush. As usual, we will help out Europe from their own blindness, and as usual Europe (not Britain) will blame us for it, then thank us for it, then forget what we did, and later blame us when we doing it again. That's why we're the only superpower left. Almost no one else has the guts to do what is necessary to preserve peace in this world.

Simon, I don't know a lot, but I DO know my history and if Saddam isn't stopped now, it's going to be far more costly to stop him in the future. If and when we liberate Iraq, there are going to be far more Iraqis in the streets cheering us than booing us.

Farkel

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Simon, do you think that for the sake of looking good in the history books that it was ok for most of Europe to come under German oppression, for 6million Jews to die and millions more to be brought to the brink of death? For a war to be fought in which millions more died? All this so that it would look unquestionably that the allies did the right thing when it could have been prevented in the first place. Even Hitler admitted that if the world would have put pressure on him instead of "appeasement" then he wouldn't have been able to go so far.

Right now we have all the evidence in the world that Saddam is the same kind of man with the same kinds of tendencies as a Hitler, which he has proven countless times in the past by being an agressor, by murdering his own people and now finally by not complying with UN agreements that He himself made to have his weapons inspected and destroyed. Must we wait for the bodies to start piling up like they did in WWII before we stop such a man? Yes, war takes a toll on innocent lives. Even American and British soldiers would undoubtedly lose their lives in an invasion, as well as innocent Iraqi civilians, but consider the alternatives. Its a moral decision that must be made, we can't just sit on the fence forever about this, or accept a wait and see attitude, because that is more deadly than the course of taking action against this man in the long run.

Simon

"With great power comes great responsibility"
- Spiderman

I hear what you are saying but taking a long term view, going in bombing will just be creating more Sep 11 recruits for the future.

What would be the best things that I think the USA could do to help itself ?

Stop backing terrorists themselves and turning a blind eye to what Isreal does (better yet).
Send large amounts of aid to the arab world.

I do not think either of these will happen though and instead the cylce will just repeat itself (again). In the meantime though, we all get to rush home at night to watch the days war on TV and arms dealers get to sell more weapons (the WTS will be happy then eh?!)

ThiChi

""I was watching something on the TV last night and it was referring to the unprovoked attack of a US back Israel on Palestine. They said that about 16,000 innocent men, women and children were killed. """

Proof? I did not think so.........

Simon

If you want to look at the 'bigger picture' and count numbers then the 3,000 from Sep 11 does not register compared to the millions that die each year in underdeveloped countries. THAT is why they hate the west. Every parent of one of the 30,000 children under 5 who die EACH DAY has a reason to hate people who did nothing.

Do I want to see something done? Hell yes! Do I want to see Saddam getting his ass kicked? Too right! Do I want to see more people hurt without full consideration of the future? No.

You can label me a liberal do-gooder all you want, for I know that I am not. I believe in harsh punishment for harsh crimes and using force when necessary. I just think we need to be restrained too and consider the humanitarian approach.

Simon

I have not seen any 'proof' that Saddam has nukes yet. If he has then I think someone needs their backside kicked for not noticing his testing ...

I do not believe politicians when they say I should just trust them about something.

Simon

Please don't get me wrong ... when it kicks off (which it will), I will definitely be cheering for 'our guys'

Go Brits, Go USA

ThiChi

"Stop backing terrorists themselves and turning a blind eye to what Isreal does"

What does "Israel do" except to claim what has been theirs for thousands of years.

What was the so called Palestinians called before 1943? "The Greater Syrian Arabs."

Today, these Palestinians are not allowed to mingle with their own arab brothers in Lebanon or other Arab countries

What hypocrisy!

On the other hand, Israel has provided jobs and citizenship to all who could apply when they became a State.

ThiChi

If we could help transform Japan and Germany after WWII, we can Iraq.

Simon

Unfortunately, their "becoming a state" involved disposessing the people already living there ... which meant that USA and Britain created whole nations who now hate us because of it. The Isrealites did not live there for thousands of years - the Arabs did (remember the crusades?).

I'm sure it had something to do with some superstitious religious mumbo jumbo about 'promised land')

Its Time to get IRAQ

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