I Think That I Chose My Parents. (page 2)

RedhorseWoman

The more things I experience in life, the more I tend to believe in some sort of afterlife, or, possibly reincarnation.

The healing touch is something that is used even in allopathic practice. I have tried this (as a form of Reiki) on my animals with good results.

There were always things that occurred throughout my life that, especially as a JW, frightened me. Anything out of the ordinary implied consorting with demons, and I was sure that somehow I had done something horrible. I've finally learned to accept these "occurrences" as a gift.

Esmeralda

Wow...quite thought provoking, Englishman. I can't imagine that I chose my parents...because
I don't think I'd have willingly chosen the childhood I had. Your post leaves me with much to think about however.

Wendy...I respect you so much for putting your personal experiences out there for us. Thank you
for trusting us with them...I hope that people will realize what a tremendous blessing it is that you
opened up to the board that way, and how priviledged we are to hear your thoughts that way! Thank you!

I can't say that my inner voice was something I had early in life. Wait, that's not true. I think its
better to say I didn't listen to it.

I knew deep down inside that I was going to have to give myself up entirely when I married my first husband. I wrote it in a journal 2 months before the wedding. But I got caught up in the opinions of others that marrying this ministerial servant was the 'best I would do' because I lacked looks, intelligence, whatever. I know now that wasn't true, but it
became my reality at the time.

My inner voice began asserting itself more loudly after my first miscarriage. I felt a strong tie to
both the babies I lost, and I felt as if I could 'see' them in my mind and heart and know what they would
have been like if they'd have been born. I wrote about that extensively at the time and those
journals are now up on my website. I 'knew' that they were both girls, etc...even though people
thought I was insane at the time.

My inner voice, intuition, whatever you want to call it, became more and more vocal and hard to ignore
as time went on, and by the time I was 25, it was screaming at me. That was the strength
that got me through my decision to divorce Mike, the sense I had of just knowing that I could
trust Justin (we are definitely soul mates. Whether we've been together before, I don't know but we both
have this sense of knowing that we'll be together beyond this life,whatever is after it)

Listening to that voice is how I got through losing my family, leaving the organization, being a single parent
for a time and supporting myself and my child on a seven dollar an hour job as a cashier. It was a leap of
faith: and I knew that I had to take a risk if I was ever going to be really happy.

I was right, even though everyone told me I was crazy. And I'd do it all over again in a heartbeat to get to where
I am now. I can't imagine I'd still be alive if I had kept ignoring that voice: my mind or body would have
given out completely and I just wouldn't be here now.

I have learned to trust my inner voice, and doing so has brought me more peace (and good decisions!)
than I ever thought I'd make.

It's a hard thing to describe, and I've never really put it into words before. So I hope that people
will respect my contributions as just that: my view, just as I respect everyone elses.

Facinating topic, Englishman. I'd have to have a good cup of tea and some silence to really consider
the issue before commenting any more. I look forward to others responses.

*hugs*
Esmeralda

The Four Agreements:
Be Impeccable With Your Word
Don't Take Anything Personally
Don't Make Assumptions
Always Do Your Best

perfectpie

Sorry if I was too harsh but I was just being honest. I don't understand why when something can't be explained it is given definition by imiginatiions. There is no proof to back up these definitions. Yes the experience in there but the proof of definition is not. If reincarnation is true wouldn't that experience be shared by all? If it is true, why is there not substantial proof of it. I think there is more evidence of such reincarnation-like experiences being reorganized experiences in our minds then some other life. Hum. Hum. blah blah blah. Anyways. I loved the sarchasm blonde mommy

riz

perfectpie,

care to share your facts on how the 'bible is concrete?' banal and nauseating. hmmmm... yes those two words describe perfectly my 20 years in the borg. i for one welcome thoughts and ideas that differ from the facist regime that i was born into. englishman, i think you are top-notch. i get a strange sensation that i've told you this before. could it be deja-vu?

riz

mommy

perfectpie I learned from a master of sarcasm
Esmeralda,
You said it more eloquently than I, thank you. I have read your website and cried over your children that died. I too have had a miscarriage and noone knows the feeling except those that have been through it. My first OB visit they sent me home with a bag full of reading material and other goodies(kinda like a care package) On the day I came back after the D&C, I brought all the magazine back. I asked if there was anything I could read about losing the baby. She opened up a book in her office and pointed to about 3 paragraphs in it.....that was it, the explanation I recieved. Sorry to get off topic, but wanted to share with you. Keep up the good work! Your writing style and experiences are helping many I am sure. Give your daughter a great big hug from me and give your hubby one too I am so happy you have found what you needed.
wendy

joelbear

If there is an afterlife what would the nature of it be? If there is another reality it still must have some basic scientific principles guiding it. Or do you believe that there are some things outside of the natural spectrum?

If we live on after death, how do we move? Do we bring things in the universe to us in some telekinetic fashion? If we are alive, what is the power source? Beyond a mythological answer, such as, it comes from God.

hugs

Joel

ShaunaC

I don't believe in reincarnation, however I do have some questions about that inner voice, intuition, subconscious premonitions.

A couple of weeks ago a friend of my boyfriend, Nick, died in a car accident. The strange thing is that another friend helped this guys parents clean out his house. The friend got on his email and found an email sent to a girl he occasionally dated just the night before he died. The email smacked of what was initially thought to be suicidal thoughts. He spelled out almost perfectly what eventually happened the next day. He talked about how he had cheated death many times but that the roads are dangerous this time of year. He wondered if he died would she cry at his funeral & speak well of him.

Now we don't really believe he committed suicide. A car accident is not a way to get the job done. And we don't think he would have put other's lives at risk. But even Nick, who was the last to speak to him on a cell phone about 30 minutes prior to the accident, said that he sounded very different from usual. He was very flamboyant and always over-exagerated everything. But this time he was quite mellow. Interestingly, Nick made these comments about this before we knew of the email letter or any thought of suicide.

So I wonder....could he have had a subconscious premonition? I would normally not believe in this sort of thing, but I find the coincidences quite odd. What do you guys think?

Shauna

perfectpie

Right on. So the Borg are listless, lifeless and dull. You nailed it. Man I have found the truth to life. I am going to do some Yoga and feel the Chakra, hum I think I was a dolphin in the last life and since I was caught and made into tuna and hate tuna sandwhiches. I am a human now, and for that I can only taunt such halucinations of reincarnation. My bad, I get it now.

By concrete I meant something specific, exsisting. In that the Bible is concrete.

really, i dew appreciate your thoughts, just having fun. who knows maybe your all right. rock on

Esmeralda

Wendy,

*hug* right back to you! I think you're right that only those who have miscarried
can understand what it means.

I remember that was one of the first warning flags I had about the org. was the way they handled my miscarriages and the 'comfort' they gave me was anything but comforting. I realize now that may have been a gift
that my unborn children gave to me: that warning about my life in the organization, that if I stayed in it
it would mean a slow death for my soul.

I'm so happy to be free now, and to get to talk to people like you who inspire me. I get so much
courage from reading posts like yours and knowing that others have been through the same
things I have and come out the other side. Thank you so much for telling me about your experience.

At the end of the day...I know that I am very blessed in my life...that is something else my inner voice reminds me daily :)
That is a feeling that I wish for you and everyone else here who has suffered from their JW lives.

I hope this makes sense, I didn't have any coffee today, ugh *lol* I better stop before I really
start to ramble :)

*huge hugs*
Essie

rem

Interesting. It's funny because I got a call from my brother on my cell phone a couple of days ago. Apparently my sister had a bad dream or got a feeling that I had gotten hurt or died. He called to check up on me and let her know I was okay. I think that little things in every day life might trigger such feelings, but we only remember the hits and not the misses.

I can't even count how many times I've had a feeling that my wife was in danger or my plane was going to crash or something - but nothing came of it. But the one time our feelings happen to coincide with a similar event, all of a sudden it is from a higher power or a parallel universe or the spirit realm. I don't buy it. I chalk it up to human psychology - we are good at remembering the hits - or the coincidences, but we forget how many times we had feelings that turned out to be nothing.

rem

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