Suicide Post from last week - Info Needed

by Celtic 48 Replies latest jw friends

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  Xandria

  Ok now I am lost, when did this issue become about Celtic, about , about a question of the facts? IT is not about them AT ALL!!!

  The issue was about a precious life lost! Due to the fact of abuse from a Parent who should have been supportive and not throw their child to the wolves. They might as well be guilty as the people of old, sacrificing their children to the gods.

  It is now has been turned into a he said, she said, who did, what did, and I am, issue. A through that the VICTIM is lost. The point is right, wrong, or otherwise, this person suffered unnecessarily. That should be the focus and to deal with the Shunning process that causes so much harm and death. We should not be fighting among ourselves and pointing fingers and throwing TANTRUMS .

  We do not honor this person's memory by acting in this fashion.

  Xandria
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  refiners fire

  Hey Pricey. I will be sure to snoop around and when I find out who passed the material (which you posted on a weboard ) to the media, I will be sure to rat them out to you so due retaliative, prosecutorial action can be taken. Your righteous indignation can then have full expression.

  "I am withdrawing my support for Bill Bowen on the basis of a very rude email I received from him in response to a perfectly respectable and polite request made to him"

  If I was running an operation like silent lambs and you offered me your "support" Id run in the opposite direction too.

  ( Fruitcake )

  Edited by - refiners fire on 1 October 2002 8:29:20
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  Englishman

  We need to remember that Celtics original post was made in good faith, he was, after all, looking for support for a desperately sad person.

  Now that is not newsworthy. Neither can we criticise Celtic so far.

  But! Events spin out of Celtics control, and the poor girl actuall DOES kill herself. Celtic posts to that effect. How could he NOT do so? He was honour bound to tell us.

  NOW everyone becomes interested, suddenly, the girls death has become news worth printing!

  It's at this point that Celtic says no, back off, leave the matter be. So then lots of people become suspicious and question the veracity of Celtics story, because he doesn't want the step-mother bothered by reporters.

  Now, I have to tell you, that I am aware of a situation that has developed with regard to this ladys real parents, something that Celtic was not aware of when he made his intial post,so please believe me when I say that Celtic is doing the right thing when he asks us not to push this one. He's in a tight spot, and although it may be one of his own making, he could not possibly have foreseen the consequences of a post that was made originally with the best of intentions.

  Englishman.

  Edited by - Englishman on 1 October 2002 8:31:8
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  Celtic

  Thankyou Englishman and Refiners Fire too.

  Literally, just a few moments ago I spoke to Adele whilst the pair of us were taking a cigarette break from work. She has seen what I posted to Bill and his subsequent reply and also this afternoon will be perusing in detail all the posts made thusfar. To say she is absolutely steaming mad with quite a few posters on this forum is the mildest understatement of the year. In fact, she fully intends to post upon the board and let her feelings be known.

  I feel for those posters that have acted in the manner they did and would warn them in advance to plug their ears, she be one feircesome lady to deal with.

  Have a great afternoon Englishman and thankyou for putting into words, the words that I myself could not find.

  Cheers!!

  Mark Price / Cornwall UK

  Community Action Network UK http://www.can-online.org.uk [email protected] http://www.selfdirection.org
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  refiners fire

  Any time pricey. Im here to help.

  You can post excessive verbiage, flowery sentences and post impressive looking titles as much as you like. It still remains painfully apparent that you are cracked. I suggest you go back to casting runes and mixing herb potions. Leave the Sick to the doctors and the litigation to the lawyers.
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  Celtic

  I'll take that as a compliment hahahahahaha
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  sunshineToo

  I'm confused. Why are Celtic and Adele upset? Why does this sad suicide have to be silenced? In fact I was beginnin to doubt whether this suicide was real or not. I'm confused.

  confused sunshine
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  hillary_step

  Mark,

  Sorry buster, you are away with the fairies when you deny that you made a threat of legal action against persons passing information to the press. They are most certainly implied in your original post :

  If anyone has any information at all in that this story without permission was passed on to the media, I would like to know about it. If anyone in fact was foolish enough to pass this onto the media without express permission from Adele first, action will be taken to remind any such individuals that you acted bang out of order and to expect consequences resulting from any such action taken.

  Now, what exactly did you mean by that statement? What kind of action were you threatening.

  I appreciate the loyalty of your friends Mark, but you were out of order making these threats. You caused this problem for Adele by not thinking things out carefully before you made your post. Adele does not seem to know how these Boards work, but you do Mark and should not have put her in this position. Your heart may be in the right place, but your brain was not, at least over this event. Your mistake is forgivable, as we have all made such mistakes, but you must take the responsibility for the problems that resulted from your post and not pass the blame on to others. Plumbers do not good brain surgeons make.

  This is my last post on the subject.

  HS
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  Englishman

  

  HS,

  I think that Celtic will review the situation and also become a wise old dog in the process.

  Englishman.
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  SixofNine

  It's ok Hillary. Celtic has scheduled Adele, er 'Adele' to post tomorrow and give us an earfull for our lack of sensitivity.

  Why a person who has lost a child to suicide would give a flying fornication what strangers across the globe think about Mark Price's interaction with his internet community, is beyond me, but perhaps 'she' will clear it up.

  If I see credible evidence that this event took place, I'll eat my hat. I mean that. I will not, however, apologize for thinking that any normal human would want publicity for such a travesty as this suicide, if it happened and if the details (parents shunning and ripping up pictures) are really as presented by Celtic. I certainly will not apologize for being put on guard by Celtic's "STOP THE PRESSES" actions after telling the story and getting the massive feedback he got. It just looks too much like someone who never thought through their game and saw it coming back to bite them in the buttocks. Add into that mix the extree-special defensiveness Celtic has expressed toward Bill Bowen, the one person who had a really credible shot at getting this thing some quick publicity (may I remind you, a good thing), and I think it odd that anyone would believe that Celtic is being upfront and honest about all of this.

  I do however, apologise if all of this is putting little blue frown faces on Sunshine too.