Bill Bowen's Comments on Ray Franz

by silentlambs 181 Replies latest jw friends

  • Princess
    Princess

    Just read your last post Charlie and you are quite mistaken. Many have heard Bill say he wants to bring the org down. I'm not the only one who has heard it, in fact he said it to a very large group of ex-jw's when I heard him. Just because he didn't want you to make a PSA about it doesn't mean it isn't what he is trying to do.

    Rachel

  • kelsey007
    kelsey007

    princess that is my point. Bowen is USING the victims for an agenda that some are not aware of.

  • kenpodragon
    kenpodragon

    Princess

    I am involved in politics. I will tell you that often politicians release neutral messages, so that they do not hurt their support. For example, a Republican I know said he is "anti-abortion." Yet in his ad's he says nothing about it, so that he does not loss support of those Republicans that are not.

    Basically, that is the key to politics! "DO NOT SAY TO MUCH!" It's a rule older then time!

    My thought

    Dragon

    Edited by - kenpodragon on 28 October 2002 1:28:45

  • Trauma_Hound
    Trauma_Hound
    Just read your last post Charlie and you are quite mistaken. Many have heard Bill say he wants to bring the org down. I'm not the only one who has heard it, in fact he said it to a very large group of ex-jw's when I heard him. Just because he didn't want you to make a PSA about it doesn't mean it isn't what he is trying to do.

    Rachel

    Ok, where's the proof he said this?

  • Princess
    Princess

    Boy Kelsey, I didn't say that and I don't agree. I believe he truly wants to help the victims but has lost his focus in trying to achieve his agenda. I don't think he is USING the victims at all.

    Rachel

  • kelsey007
    kelsey007

    Only the fact that several here have stated that he told them that- but thats not enough I guess. He said it. He said it to me. And others.

  • Princess
    Princess

    Well gee, I didn't have my tape recorder on at the time but I can give you names. I heard it and so did Steve. Kelsey has said it too. It's a fact and you know what happened off camera at the KOMO interview in Seattle. They told me that afternoon what was said off camera and you were there. Even though Bill was not there, his supporters are in agreement on this one. Don't play dumb.

  • kenpodragon
    kenpodragon

    TH

    Proof, is right here.

    Want to protect victims ... change the laws ... get support of the government

    March on the Capital in Washington DC

    Want to take down the Watchtower, hurt the society, make the Jehovah's Witness look bad

    March on the Headquarters of the Jehovah's Witnesses

    Which did silentlambs march on? The proof is in the actions.

    My thought

  • Trauma_Hound
    Trauma_Hound

    Well you know, you ever think, that maybe he seperates his personal feelings from what silent lambs is about? I certainly do, hell I'd love to see the WTBS go down, however, that's not what doing with silent lambs, because it won't help the current survivors in the org.

  • kelsey007
    kelsey007

    princess i did not say that is what you said. That is what I say. I have had dealings that to me prove that is the case. He lost his way before he started this thing. The abuse victims came to him like 9-11 came to bush- good timing for another agenda. I know more than I dare state here or elsewhere- but I know what I know-

    I will not lower my standards to his level by sharing some things that were told to me in confidence- but I will warn all that I can that there is something wrong with this picture- open thine eyes and see the light for thyself!

    Edited by - kelsey007 on 28 October 2002 1:35:9

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