Clarification & Apology

by Amazing 60 Replies latest jw friends

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  Simon

  Also, it's easy to dismiss this as just him 'losing his temper' or something.

  This was a sustained compaign / attack on my and this site over several days and even now he has not even apologsed for anything but emailed suggesting that he can 'ramp it up' and that people have "seen you for what you are" (me).

  Right now, I really wonder why I bother doing this and putting in all the effort. All this crap about being "fair to some and not to others" and possibly even allowing people to 'get away with things' because they pay me is just that - a great big steaming pile of shit.
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  Valis

  Why did you send me such an unkind and hurtful email?

  Simon, maybe if this had been reserved for later in the dialogue with the email in question maybe things would have turned out differently and maybe not. I know how Amazing feels....when you try to work things out by email and it doesn't work out that way. Especially when you choose to be somewhere the same person frequents. I think we all know what it is like to be in a place where people's real feelings are hindered by one thing or another...and many times it is only our own decorum, class, or whatever you want to call it, that stops us from making total asses of ourselves, hurting people's feelings, or alienating ourselves from people we want to be around. *LOL* Dammit, maybe TT was right when he sassed me about self control....grrrr...*LOL*

  BTW, I noticed you edited your second post from last....you should have left the cuss words in...it would have been cathartic..*LOL*

  Sincerely,

  District Overbeer
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  Simon

  RevMalk

  Are you telling me that someone could come to your forum, say things like "F*** You All", repetedly tell you and everyone else to "F*** Off", register names with:

  • RevMalk_F***_Off
  • RevMalk_Kiss_My_Ass
  • RevMalk_F***s_Goats
  • Give_Up_RevMalk (and several others)

  Post your families home address and telephone number and send you threatening emails and is abusive to abuse survivors.

  ... would be welcomed as having a "different oppinion"?

  ... if they had repeatedly done things like this in the past?

  ... and you would welcome them back on when you didn't even get an apology or any acknowledgement that they had done anything wrong?

  ... and be happy to have people make out that you were somehow "unreasonable" to deactivate someone like that?

  Get real. It's easy to complain and say how things *should* be done. If you want to do things that way then you can but please do not tell me how I should be treating someone like that.
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  refiners fire

  Hey Amazing, you take it easy brother and stay out of this place for a while. Its not conducive to your health bro. Read a good book instead. Go for a picnic.
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  wednesday

  simon,

  this is your site, and you are the one going to the trouble to keep it up. do not let anyone badger u and try and abuse u. there is no place in the world without rules, and it appears that is is wanted , total freedom to say ANYTHING , without regard to anyone or anything.Let them host a site and put up with this unbelievable envasion of privacy.

  wednesday
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  RevMalk

  Simon,

  I know what you're saying, and I didn't say that you were doing wrong. It's your forum, and you need to do what you need to do to keep house. I'm also not saying that you should put up with the filthy registered names, but I would like to point out that they were used after he was banned, so I guess he had nothing to lose by then. Had someone done that over at LRD before they were banned, it would be different, but that was an obvious outburst based on feeling "wronged".

  I gave this some thought, and If I were in a verbal argument with someone, and wasn't allowed to defend myself, or voice my opinions......if my mouth was taped shut, which can be likened to being banned from here. I'd probably lose it.....I'd go through the roof out of frustration, and I think that's what happened here.

  would I allow him back to LambsRoar after all that? Yes, I believe I would, but maybe we have to keep in mind that LambsRoar is a little different than this site. We're there for healing, support and understanding one another, and we recognize that these things can and will happen. TH has been edited on LRD for using the "F" word, and I've asked him to tone down certain things, and it's worked wonderfully for us. Maybe it's all in my delivery, I don't know. I'm a very forgiving person, and I know you are too, but it is apparent that certain ones are allowed more slack here. I mean no offense, it's simply just fact. And I'm not jumping up and down, nor condemning you, just pointing out the obvious.

  Not to bring up dead issues, but you know what I went through last month, and am still going through, with someone we both know. As much as I've been hurt and defamed by this person, if he needed the shirt off my back, I'd give it to him. That's just the way I am, and I am merely giving my opinions based on how I would react to certain things, but I'm not trying to push my morals on anyone else.

  Again, you need to do what you need to do, and I won't condemn you for it, I simply and respectfully disagree in this situation. But that doesn't mean I'm always right, and it doesn't mean you're wrong, it's just my opinion, and I think that's what JWD is all about.
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  refiners fire

  Hey Simon, I think these three, four posters want you to keep him as some kind of pet troll that goes around biting people and screaming abuse.

  "F... YOU! MORON IDIOT!".........The troll screams. And We are supposed to go "OH ah..Hahahaha, isnt he funny."

  "F...off you molester loving piece of scum!!" He roars. And We go "Oh. Its okay. Hes been hurt by the WT and has to speak like that because hes got 'issues' hes dealing with ".

  I cant believe these people, I tell ya.
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  RevMalk

  You know what RF? I've had that abuse from TH as well, and I don't agree with it. I'm not defending that way about him, and I don't appreciate the insinuations either. I also never said he should be allowed to do what he wants because he's an Abuse Survivor.

  Whatever, you know what, if this happened to you I'd be sticking up for you too, it's because I care about people, and perhaps I take too much abuse. I never said TH was right and you guys were wrong, I was just stating my opinion on this particular situation. Forget I said anything.
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  RevMalk

  Post your families home address and telephone number

  I do have to agree though, that this was wrong.
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  teejay

  Hey Simon, I think these three, four posters want you to keep him as some kind of pet troll that goes around biting people and screaming abuse.

  
  Refiners,

  That is a mischaracterization of what most have posted. I don't think anyone has categorically excused TH for his ugly outbursts. As I've said, I've been on the receiving end of his immaturity many times and don't recall a single pleasant interchange with the man -- ever. Also, posting ANYONE'S personal information is one of the worst things you can do, and TH's excuse that the information was available online carried zero weight with me. This in itself warranted his expulsion, IMO.

  Still, IN THE CASE OF AMAZING, I believe that it's wrong to bait someone with whom you've had "words" in the past AND ON A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FORUM. If... and I say IF the baiting is allowed, then so should be the response. It clouds the issue when one 'side' of an argument is totally vilified without giving due regard to the culpability of the other. I feel has happened here.

  I have said and will continue to say that Simon has every right to run this forum in whatever way he sees fit, and in that he does a better job than anyone I know. My comments weren't directed at Simon, per se, only to the fact that Amazing, as Amazing said, was wrong in the way he went about things.