It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued) (page 196)

DerekMoors

Here's next month's Patreoff thread. I also put this table in that thread, interesting to see over time:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5109249936457728/lloyd-evans-patreoff-pool-march-2024

The losses are even greater than that. He gained quite a lot of paying supporters after his first begging video (more than a hundred, if memory serves). If you add those to the 897 and 530 respectively, we may get a better sense of how bad it really has gotten.

DerekMoors

Here's the graph creator I use:

https://graphtreon.com/creator/cedars

He had another surge in March 2021, is that what you mean? From 656 to 750 in a few days. I haven't kept track of all his BS. I frankly can't stand the sound of his voice so checking out his videos is a chore for me.

WingCommander

Too bad; Too bad!!!!

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

From 656 to 750 in a few days. I haven't kept track of all his BS.

He has pulled this shit for years, manufacturing a crisis and painting exJWs, YouTube or WT (take your pick) as “enemies of the channel” in true “us vs them” cult fashion. The one you speak of in 2021 was the “adpocalypse” where YT was demonetising many of his videos. He claimed it was costing him so much that he would have to shut down the channel or scale back if the difference was not made up by Patreon pledges.

And… it worked! He got over 100 in a day or two and regularly tweeted out updates of how many have joined, and what became his catch phrase of being “overwhelmed at the outpouring of support for the channel” and declaring that “we shall carry on!”.

Knowing it had worked before was what led him to pull last year’s begging stunts. I don’t think he’s beyond doing it again, especially as he gets closer to 300, which is probably awfully close to him having to live an austere lifestyle. In fact it is more than likely we’ll see something similar again and soon, this time threatening to leave outright. His problem is that it’s going to be off-putting to people who are already pledging to see that he can’t get his act together and it’s clear he needs to get a job and do this part time like everyone else.

TonusOH

I was referring to the jump from March to April of 2023. Graphtreon shows 387 patrons in March and 564 in April, an increase of 177 paying supporters. So, you could say that he has had a total of 897 + 177 = 1,074. His current count of 367 implies a total loss of 707 patrons. almost two-thirds of his supporters have decided they do not want to support him any longer.

Edit to add: just to be clear, I'm not advising that you update your chart. I'm just pointing out that the situation looks worse when we account for the increase he got in April. He's on track to post a loss of 20-40 patrons in a year's time, which wouldn't be good but wouldn't seem alarming. Then you realize that the number doesn't include the gain (and loss) of 177 additional people. That puts it in a different light.

DerekMoors

The only thing I would say against that is we don't know if those 177 were new patrons, in addition to the 897 peak. Some who were part of the drop from 897 may have come back for a few months at least, trying to get him through what they thought was just a temporary slump.

But however you slice it, I like to look at things over time rather than just month to month. You see how his drop was significant right after that initial surge and then slowed down over the holiday months, but he still averaged -22 per month in those 10 months. He's also not gaining anything permanently; he was in the same exact spot, on the nose, January 2 this year and last year.

And it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy LOL!

TonusOH

I figured it's not exact and there is probably a small bit of overlap. I blame Kim.

JeffT

I figured it's not exact and there is probably a small bit of overlap. I blame Kim.

Overlapping Kims?

KIMSILVIO

lol 😂 😂😂

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