What evidence is there for a biblical jesus?

by Touchofgrey 189 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • FreeTheMasons
    FreeTheMasons
    But were you paying attention? Or did cognitive bias kick in too soon?

    I could ask you the same question.

    Why do people disfellowship Jehovah? He didn't disfellowship you.

  • Jeffro
    Jeffro
    Why do people disfellowship Jehovah? He didn't disfellowship you.

    Begging the question. You would need to demonstrate that the deity exists first.

  • FreeTheMasons
    FreeTheMasons

    He sent me to tell you he loves you.

    I delivered the message.

    I'm going to bed now after I do a few things. I'll catch up with you later, @Jeffro.

    Goodnight.💖

  • Jeffro
    Jeffro

    🙄

    Ok ‘Theresa’

  • TonusOH
    TonusOH

    Simon: They begin at least 100 years after his claimed life.

    To drive this point home, the post after yours mentions the following:

    Mara Bar Serapion (born 50 AD). The original letter that may contain references to Christianity was written sometime between 73 AD and 300 AD.

    Early Christian Writers (ca 50-157 AD), bearing in mind that none of their original writings have been found, just copies of copies of copies, none before the second century, if I am not mistaken.

    Thallus (ca 55 AD), whose writings are lost. A reference (800 AD) to a reference (220 AD) of his writings appears to be what remains.

    Josephus (ca 93 AD), whose mentions of Jesus are either mistaken or very likely a forgery.

    Pliny the Younger, born around 61 AD.

    In other words, god took on a body of flesh, came to Earth, performed miracles and gave moving speeches, caused an earthquake and eclipse and raised many dead on the day he died... and no one thought to talk about him for some 50-200 years.

  • FreeTheMasons
    FreeTheMasons

    Jesus isn't God, but people have been talking about him since the beginning of human history.

    They're still talking about him.

    Even his opposers talk about him.

    Which is abundantly apparent.

  • Jeffro
    Jeffro

    There’s that tedious word ‘opposers’, which fits into that same ‘rejection’ motivation. 🙄

    And people obviously haven’t been talking about Jesus “since the beginning of human history”. 🤦‍♂️

  • FreeTheMasons
    FreeTheMasons

    Jehovah mentioned Jesus in the Genesis 3:15 prophecy.

    That was at the beginning of human history.

    The fact that we still have a record of it today shows people have been talking about it from that time to this.

    As regards the word "opposers" - I do not subscribe to the fantasy world teachings that some psycho-students do ("psycho" short for "psychology" of course) that theories take precedence over reality.

    There are people who oppose truth in the world. There are people who oppose God. Making up theories and fairy tales doesn't negate reality.

    God exists. If a person wants to reject Him, He will reject that person. Opposing the source of life is a way to embrace death. How's that fit into your rejection model?

  • Jeffro
    Jeffro
    Jehovah mentioned Jesus in the Genesis 3:15 prophecy.
    That was at the beginning of human history.

    No part of that is true.

    Making up theories and fairy tales doesn't negate reality.

    🤣🤣😂🤣😂 see above

  • FreeTheMasons
    FreeTheMasons

    If you don't believe in Him, then why do you spend so much time talking about Him?

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