What evidence is there for a biblical jesus?

by Touchofgrey 189 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  FreeTheMasons

  I believe in Jesus and in Jehovah. It is highly gratifying to me to talk about the people I love. I worship Jehovah, so for me to talk about Him makes sense and is fitting.

  If you claim not to believe in Him, then you are most to be pitied. You spend so much time talking about something you don't believe in. If you really don't believe in Him, why are you wasting your time on here?

  Unless you really do believe in Him, but you're trying to avoid something that you need to repent about and you're trying to ease your conscience.

  I don't know what's in your heart. I just know you are a bit of a contradiction.
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  Touchofgrey

  : a person who intentionally antagonizes others online by posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content. Internet trolls. In the late 1980s, Internet users adopted the word "troll" to denote someone who intentionally disrupts online communities

  Freethemason the internet troll
  
  
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  Jeffro

  If you don't believe in Him, then why do you spend so much time talking about Him?

  That tedious line was literally one of the trite example shown in the video, ‘Theresa’. 🤦‍♂️🤣

  You feeling rejected?
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  LongHairGal

  TOUCHOFGREY:

  I believe Jesus Christ was a historical person. Maybe my opinion is colored by my Roman Catholic upbringing.

  There is a mixed bag of people on the forum: you have Witnesses, ex-Witnesses and everybody in between. Some angry, some not angry. Some pro-Bible, some anti-bible..Some ex-Witnesses are religious; some avowed atheists or agnostics.

  Whether anybody accepts or wants to believe Jesus was the savior or in any way divine is entirely up to them. For those who insist he never existed, whatever.
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  FreeTheMasons

  : a person who intentionally antagonizes others online by posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content. Internet trolls. In the late 1980s, Internet users adopted the word "troll" to denote someone who intentionally disrupts online communities
  

  I was falsely accused in the KH of being "disruptive" because I spoke truth. Guess they considered me a troll too, even though I never once disrupted a meeting in my entire life.

  (Hey, @touchofgrey, just wanted to say too that I am not the person who downvoted your comment.)
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  Phizzy

  The whole question of whether there was an historical, real living person who gave rise to the Mythical Literary Figure we are presented with in the Gospels is simply a matter of mild academic interest, it makes no difference, one way or the other.

  Let's just assume there was an itinerant, rabble-rousing, Jewish political activist man who the Writer of "Mark" based his Character upon, that does not make anything else at all, not one thing, in the Story true.

  Just as an example take the literary character Sherlock Holmes, we are quite sure that Conan Doyle based Holmes on a man who taught him, but that does not make Holmes and the Stories true, and it does not make any other character in the stories true either !

  So, Dr. Watson, Moriarty, and Mrs Hudson et al are no more real than Holmes himself.

  And neither are the other characters in the Gospels !

  The Apostles, disciples, villains etc. we find in the Gospels are as imaginary as is the Jesus figure.
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  Touchofgrey

  Longhairgal

  People are free to believe what they want, just as we were when we were jws, and something or someone said or did something to make us think about whether what we were being told was true or not (UN exposure for me) and then you do independent research and discover that we were being lied to and controlled and manipulated.

  For those who insist he never existed, all I asked was for evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed and the evidence clearly showed that he did not.

  I just hope that raising this question someone reading the well researched factual evidence given will go on to do their own research into the topic and the bible in general without being told that jesus loves you but he knows were you stay .
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  Halcon

  Thanks for demonstrating that you couldn’t properly identify what constituted the false equivalence.

  Of more importance, I reminded you that Jesus motivates the invisible yet very real heart and mind.
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  Jeffro

  🤦‍♂️
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  TonusOH

  My heart is not invisible.