Why is it bad if God desires to rescue his Children?
Rescue them from what?
Which goes along with:
Who put us under that death penalty?
What did you personally do to deserve that death penalty?
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Duran
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Sea Breeze
Rescue them from what?
Sin, Judgment & Death (eternal abandonment)
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Duran
How about the other two questions...
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Sea Breeze
The wages of sin is death. I definitely earned mine.
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Duran
LOL! So, you just can't bring yourself to answer them, can you?
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TonusOH
Sea Breeze: Why is it bad if God desires to rescue his Children?
I did not say that it was bad for God to offer to save us. I pointed out two things:
1. He is the one who condemned us. In all but two cases, he did so before we even existed.
2. He is not obligated to take any action, as there is no one who can compel him to action.
In other words, anything that happens is his fault. All of it. His convoluted plan to "save" a world that he condemned through his poor planning just makes him seem that much more evil, because we cannot ascribe it to incompetence when we are talking about a being of endless knowledge and understanding.
If it happened, it is what he wanted. He is offering to rescue us? He's the one we need rescuing from!
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Sea Breeze
1. He is the one who condemned us....
In other words, anything that happens is his fault.I'm curious, why don't you apply this reasonig to our judges? If judges would simply stop making judgments, the payment for crimes would stop, right? It's so simple. Not.
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TonusOH
If human judges were responsible for the creation of the universe and everything in it, including the design of humans and the human mind, we could apply that reasoning to them.
Under your belief system, we are the products of an advanced intellect bearing unlimited power and energy to create, and capable of perfection in everything he does. His product is defective. He blames the product. Would you allow a human manufacturer to get away with this kind of reasoning?
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Sea Breeze
TonusOH,
I can’t see a correlation between an inanimate product and beings with agency and free-will.
That’s a faulty comparison.
Are you saying God should have made people without free will?
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TonusOH
Sea Breeze: I can’t see a correlation between an inanimate product and beings with agency and free-will.
If there is a flaw in the design, the designer must be at fault. We should assign blame accordingly.
Sea Breeze: Are you saying God should have made people without free will?
If the only possible outcome of exercising free will is catastrophe, what good is it?